Bigger InsightsJul 7, 2023
Proton Mail
So #Meta's new #Threads app needs your health and fitness info. It also needs your browsing history and your location, and your purchases, and...well, it seems to need everything. If you want to get fully creeped out, here's the whole #privacy policy: https://privacycenter.instagram.com/policy/.
Meta Privacy Policy - How Meta collects and uses user data

Learn how we collect, use and share user data to support Facebook, Instagram, Messenger and more. Use tools to manage your privacy preferences.

Jul 7, 2023 at 2:51pmWeb
Show threadTeh AnKorage ☑️Jul 7, 2023
Frakking evil.

@protonmail
Show thread__Miguel_Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail There IS a reason it's not available in the EU, after all... :P
Show threadMeow.tar.gz  Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail This is even a better reason not to use corporate social media of any type.
Show threadCatherine SchmidtJul 8, 2023
@ablackcatstail @protonmail for the life of me I don’t understand why they do…I don’t trust threads…they will find a way to mine information.
Show threadJohn FrancisJul 7, 2023
@protonmail additional side effects include constipation....AND diarrhea. Yes both! And at the same time!
Show threadMichael AndreJul 7, 2023
@protonmail I'll pass, thanks!
Show threadhenryJul 7, 2023
@protonmail These are the prices to paid🙃
Show threadEzekiel Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail phrasing your post this way makes a reasonable post unreasonable. It doesn’t request Health/Motion/Location access from device sensors, which is what you’re saying here
Show threadSocialSpirit  🍁Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail help me to understand why this information is required and who in their right mind would consent to this?
Show threadFossery Tech  Jul 7, 2023
@SocialSpirit @protonmail it's required to make money out of users. Meta sees users as records inside a database
Show threadJames WellsJul 7, 2023
@SocialSpirit @protonmail
Based on the last 10 years I would say 90+% of FB and IG users out there.
Show threadNicolai Ryge Art 🇩🇰Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail, what's other data? There is hardly any data not on the list.
Show threadcythevJul 7, 2023
@Nicolai_Ryge @protonmail It's data they stumble upon in the refining process they even didn't imagine it exists 😏
Show threadAshery CafeJul 7, 2023
And that's why I said fuck off to all meta stuff years ago, how did we as a modern society accept this as a norm, why is this even legal
Show threadJames WellsJul 7, 2023

@atokin
That is actually quite simple. All of the "hottest" services on the internet started collecting them and people just ignored it or considered it the price of doing business with the "hottest" services that everyone who is someone or everyone who wants to be someone is on.

Sad statement of the human condition. :(

Show threadWilfried KlaebeJul 8, 2023
@atokin It isn't legal in the EU. Which is why Threads isn't available in the EU. GDPR for the win!
Show threadDuncan BluesJul 7, 2023
@protonmail so to cut it short, the #threads #privacy policy is that you get none. 🤷
#suprise
Show threadBjoernBJul 7, 2023
@protonmail so they don't want my elementary school results. What a shame. But only because they are not already part of my mobiles data. If they'd be, you bet they'd require them as well.
#threads #stayAway
Show threadScott KnowlesJul 7, 2023
@protonmail Why? Because they can and user concedes to it. Depending on the buyer, Meta, remember Threads checks your Instagram and Facebook pages, sells access to users' data or sells the data. You're the product. Threads, or Instagram, is the candy for users while they're stealing your privacy.
Show threadPeter PrincipleJul 7, 2023

@protonmail

"Please hold still while your computer takes a retinal scan and digitizes the genetic sample you have provided."

Show threadMcRadaneJul 7, 2023
@protonmail I dont plan to use Thread, but if I do, Thread will receive no captor data, thanks to GrapheneOS :)
Show threadJillJul 8, 2023
@mcradane @protonmail What is this magic?
Show threadZack Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail @polarity I'd like to know what specific data is being used for the categories. That might make people understand and make a better decision.
Show threadGeorge DanilaJul 7, 2023
@protonmail If they could, they would ask for your first born child...
Show threadInge HellimanJul 7, 2023
@protonmail Wie kann mensch nur so blöd sein, seine/ihre Daten #threads und damit #meta und damit dem #zuckerberg #honk zu überlassen. Wir wissen doch alle, wie schädlich ein Berg Zucker ist.😂
Show threadSteve PopovichJul 7, 2023
@protonmail a great reason to avoid it like the plague...even if we found out in 2020 that lots of people don't even seem to want to avoid the plague.
Show threadJesseJul 7, 2023
@protonmail Oh damn, thank you for writing an #AltText for your images.
If I may, what's the best way to reach out re: accessibility issues I have with the bridge/mobile client?
Show threadProton MailJul 10, 2023
@JesseF8693 Hi! Please open a ticket here: https://proton.me/support/contact and it will be redirected to the appropriate team.
Contact Proton support | Proton

Need to contact Proton support? Want to report a bug or provide feedback? Use this form to get in touch with a real person directly and get answers quickly.

Proton
Show threadKarl Name Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail I'll never ever use it.
Show threadNicole ParsonsJul 7, 2023

@protonmail

If Meta is to successfully interfere in elections, again, especially on Russia's behalf, it needs a complete data set to sell to hostile foreign nations.

Facebook can't understand why people might want to keep democracy and why they have reservations about enriching billionaires and social media plutocrats.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-academic-trawling-facebook-had-links-to-russian-university

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-facebook-influence-us-election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Analytica_data_scandal

The lawsuits are just "cost of doing business" penalties to Meta.
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/12/23/facebook-parent-meta-to-pay-725m-in-cambridge-analytica-scandal

Cambridge Analytica: links to Moscow oil firm and St Petersburg university

Data company gave briefing to Moscow firm Lukoil, and the lecturer who developed the crucial algorithm worked for St Petersburg university

The Guardian
Show threadoasoaJul 7, 2023
@protonmail I was gonna get it but as soon as I saw it's data linking I was immediately turned off. Somehow tiktok links less data to you 🤯
Show threadGraham WardJul 7, 2023
@protonmail #Threads is quite an appropriate name. At least they have warned you. That's why many of us won't go near it. #Meta
Show threadstux⚡️Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail Thank you for providing privacy!  oh and my email! 
Show threadmnoomJul 7, 2023
@protonmail i didn't even know they could access browsing history
Show threadpierreJul 7, 2023
@protonmail do DNS sinkholes such as AdGuard, nextdns, ControlD or even a VPN such as Proton and Mullvad prevent these trackers?
Show threadJames WellsJul 7, 2023

@breadandwater @protonmail
Not really. The app is collecting it at the device itself instead of from the internet ingress point.

Yes, AdGuard can provide some protections, but not much at all. :(

Show threadpierreJul 7, 2023
@nikatjef @protonmail so is it making local calls to collect the data? But then once it has the data, what does it do with it and how? Would it not have to make some end point call somewhere?
Show threadJames WellsJul 7, 2023

@breadandwater @protonmail
Not sure you level of Tech understanding so I apologize if this is too simplistic, but...

The app will collect the data and make it part of the app's communication with the Threads server. Since it is internal to the connection, tools like VPNs will not even see it, while tools like AdGuard are unable to insert themselves into the outbound communication they can't intercept and "replace" incoming "undesired" data.

Show threadpierreJul 7, 2023
@nikatjef @protonmail interesting. Appreciate the explanation.
Show threadpierreJul 8, 2023

@nikatjef saw the latest update by AdGuard on GitHub includes in-app tracker blocking. Not sure how well it works if at all

“AdGuard v4.5 for iOS now includes system-wide tracking protection, which allows you to block in-app trackers that can discreetly collect user data”

https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardForiOS/releases

Releases · AdguardTeam/AdguardForiOS

The most advanced ad blocker for iOS. Contribute to AdguardTeam/AdguardForiOS development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadJames WellsJul 9, 2023
@breadandwater
Very cool. Thank you for the update. I don't use iPhone, but I know a number of people who do and I am sure they will like this added protection.
Show threadOpticalNail 🇵🇸Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail A question though, is this much worse than what Instagram or Facebook ask for? Since Meta does already have most of this information from those apps.
While this is completely insane, I believe that it was completely insane before Threads came. What makes this new app so much worse?
Show threadJames WellsJul 7, 2023

@arh @protonmail
Well considering that FB and IG were basically collecting that data before they were required to tell you about it, no not really. And this is why I think it really will end up becoming the Twitter killer... FB and IG users already give this information to Meta, so there is really no new "cost" to the end users.

In all honesty it is not worse than FB and IG, it is just more visible now, so people are aware of it.

Show threadDanieJul 8, 2023

@arh @protonmail that’s one way of looking at it , i want to add why people go with “good cop bad cop” between twitter and facebook when both probably do the samething

Facebook is more upfront about it

Show threadMoved to @[email protected]Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail I call 10 months before positive coverage of Threads ends and people start realizing how dangerous to the social fabriv this app actually is. It just irks me to see how much people are still fine with the morally bankrupt tech industry. We really should stop looking at corrupt individuals like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk as visionaries.
Show threadCondalmo.Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail
Show threadVint ProxJul 7, 2023

@protonmail

Here's a video rundown of all permissions that #Threads app is requiring: https://tilvids.com/w/3Fq67yoxjsi9mnSKG2Xbam

It's greasly.

Mastodon vs Threads - App Privacy Policies in iOS App Store

PeerTube
Show threadThe FrogJul 7, 2023

@protonmail I'm not sure which one freaks me the most: the financial info or the health and fitness, or the browsing history.

Advice for anyone: STAY AWAY FROM IT.

Show threadQuantumOrgasm~Jul 7, 2023
@protonmail To the dungeon with Meta!!!
Show threadUstenJul 7, 2023
@protonmail It's similar to Twitter but worse
Show threadTessavWalstijnJul 7, 2023
@protonmail Don't forget it is currently banned in the European Union
Show threadSwandog (T. Xenia Eliassen)Jul 7, 2023

@protonmail

I heard it's even worse... D:

Show threadGeekGyrlJul 7, 2023
@protonmail I briefly worked for a company (now out of business) that harvested data through a seemingly innocent mobile app. The amount and type of data the app harvested was terrifying. And Meta is asking for more than that. Advertisers know everything about you. That's how you are inundated with ads. Now, take it a step further and imagine a company like Meta providing your personal info to bad actors and law enforcement. It's happened more than once. It will happen again.
Show threadHans van ZijstJul 7, 2023
@Proton Mail And after a long list of the kind of data they pull from your device, there's even the broad category "sensitive info" and, if that wasn't enough, "other data".

Why don't they just tell what data they don't collect? Would be a much shorter list.

Who in their right mind would click "accept" after having actually read that shite? How desperate do you have to be to let yourself be abused like that?
Show threadPJT NorthJul 7, 2023

@protonmail

It is abomination….creepy beyond words.

Show threadNoahJul 7, 2023
@protonmail Yes but let's talk about yourself for a sec: When opening an account on ProtonMail, why do I need a phone number as verification, when on a VPN? Why is it highly recommended even when not on a VPN? So much about privacy in ProtonMail..