A better list of Mastodon servers that have pre-emptively defederated from Threads.net

https://lemmy.world/post/1113730

A better list of Mastodon servers that have pre-emptively defederated from Threads.net - Lemmy.world

OOTL. What's going on?
Threads is a twitter competitor by meta. They plan to eventually federate with the wider fediverse and to that end have contacted some of the larger fediverse servers like Mastodon.social (not mstdn.social) to do this. People are defederating before this happens because they worry meta will negatively affect the fediverse.
It's mastodon.social that plans to federate. As the list linked above reflects, mstdn.social is preemptively blocking Meta
My bad, I swear I remembered him being a part of the NDA meeting, maybe he was but was suspicious

No worries, I was just trying to clear up any confusion! Mostly because those two instances have a really similar name, and are easy to mix up.

I think there were a lot of rumors about stux, because he runs a couple big servers, & wouldn't sign that anit-meta pact, but I know he denies going to the nda meeting, & he announced blocking Meta today, after a big poll.

Good to know where to run if this becomes a bad thing. Mostly staying because migration isn't where I want it yet. Bit sad to see my posts and boosts go.
I’d like to see what percentage of all known Fediverse users are in servers preemptively banning Threads. More than 30%?
I’m still on the fence about that being a good thing. I’m kind of looking forward to being able to see Twitter style content from major companies but without ads via my Mastodon account.
that's the thing, I see all content from major companies as ads.
I wouldn't mind having the ability to send angry messages to them again, especially if me not following them also means I don't ever see their content in my feed.

Right after I logged into Threads, with a new account, by first 2 pages were posts from Zuck, Wendy’s, Netflix, a Facebook fanboy, and another Wendy’s ad. I tried to screen shot it, but the shit app realized I was idle, and used that as an opportunity to refresh the content.

30 million people jumped into this stupid thing this AM.

It detects if you’re idle and refreshes the page?

That’s some horrible attention hacking bullshit.

I’m 100% going to find another instance if I see any content from that nightmare. I’m not on Twitter, or Facebook, for a reason.

Or it’s just a bug
If major companies want to be on the fediverse, they're welcome to make their own kbin/lemmy accounts.

Why do you think a large corporation would just share their content to people who aren't viewing their ads?

They're not just being generous. Corporations are not benevolent. So what are they expecting to get from it?

Here's the answer: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

Embrace, extend, and extinguish - Wikipedia

Unfortunately that’s not how it usually works with major companies, and I learned it thanks to some post on Lemmy.
Look for “EEE”, or “embrace extend extinguish”
Here’s a way to block the instance until you decide: hachyderm.io/@crowgirl/110663465238573628
Kim Crawley (@[email protected])

Meta is coming. I recommend blocking their domain, threads.net. Use a text editor. Type "threads.net" (no quotes) and save the file as "blocked_domains.csv" (no quotes.) Go to your Mastodon settings > import > blocked domains and upload the file. Bingo! #Meta #Threads

Hachyderm.io
Suspending them before they have actually done anything wrong is a bit like a pre-crime.
You really so sure Meta has never done anything wrong?
It's not like "they" are some unknown quantity though, it's the Facebook people. It's not weird or unreasonable for people to not want the company that got fined literally a billion euros for data privacy violations just a couple of months ago to get involved in a thing they like
I’m not on Facebook but I know people who are, and they are just ordinary people who made a poor choice and didn’t read the terms and conditions. It’s all those people who you are excluding, not just Facebook employees.
All of those people are welcome to make accounts elsewhere on any Fediverse instance, though, just like they were before the launch of Threads. They're not banned. They're not being punished either. There's just going to be less stuff on Threads.

it's more like suspending someone who has engaged in bad behaviour in the past and is likely/promising to do it again. if you own your own fediverse site, you decide what the rules are and how to enforce them.

the difference between the fediverse and the corporate-controlled social media sites is that you can actually enforce your rules against larger companies on your own corner of the internet.

I know very little about the machinery that makes the fediverse work, so forgive me if this seems ignorant: What’s to prevent a malevolent entity from writing their own version of the fediverse that is compatible with the current version and uses the “EEE” philosophy to essentially take over, grow, and kill (or overwhelm) the ‘verse we all use now?
They already spread medical disinfo like wildfire, got someone who sold our state secrets to the highest bidder elected, and house sociopathuc terrorists like libsoftiktok. That's enough.
Caught in Providence: Double Jeopardy

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Based mastodon.art, I don’t use Mastodon anymore (microblogging isn’t my thing) but I’m glad I set my account there when I tried it. I remember the folks there being quite the lively and caring bunch.
mastodon.art is the single worst mastodon instance ever. the admins trick users into signing up so they can hold as much defederation power possible. .art defederates nearly EVERYONE.
I'm not signing up for Threads, but looking at some of the stuff other people show me coming out of there, it might end up just being yet-another-nazi-instance when they open up federation so might just end up getting block on those terms and not so much the "being meta/facebook" terms.
So what you're saying is we need to open a Threads account and become Nazis?
Do we also have this list for Lemmy instances?