Andrea Grandi 🦕Jul 6, 2023

I think defederating Threads is a huge missed opportunity for Mastodon to grow.

Imagine interacting with their users and letting them know that: you scroll posts without ads, your timeline is in chronological order, your client doesn’t spy on you, you only see what you want and no other content is pushed to your timeline, etc…

if I was a Threads users, I would move to Mastodon as soon as I find out 🙂

Show threadhappyborgJul 6, 2023

@andreagrandi so many problems with this. Threads culture will swamp fedi culture and *that* is all we need to consider.

Ten million people (so far) cannot federate without an impact on fedi culture, which is the most important reason for being on Mastodon.

Show threadAndrea Grandi 🦕
@happyborg right, but being on Mastodon you are still free to only follow who you want, without being pushed unwanted content or accounts. This is the biggest advantage for us being here. We have control on the content we see.
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Show threadhappyborgJul 6, 2023
@andreagrandi true, but it doesn't address my point. My sole point. 🤷‍♂️
Show threadUrzlJul 6, 2023
@happyborg @andreagrandi How would content you don't follow swamp the content you do follow in an environment where you only get content you explicitly followed?
Show threadhappyborgJul 6, 2023
@gooba42 @andreagrandi 🤦‍♂️
Show threadAmadi LovelaceJul 6, 2023
@gooba42 @happyborg @andreagrandi you know that your feed of who you’re following isn’t the only feed though, right? You know that there is a federated feed that shows all the content from all the instances that your instance is federated with, and people use it to find people and topics and conversations they want to see more of, right?
Show threadUrzlJul 6, 2023

@amaditalks @happyborg @andreagrandi I'm aware of it but I also filter, block and mute liberally and otherwise curate as I see fit.

More *stuff* on the smorgasbord doesn't bother me when I don't have to eat it all.

Show threadAmadi LovelaceJul 6, 2023
@gooba42 @happyborg @andreagrandi go back and read what you said in context. Your personal usage isn’t the question.
Show threadUrzlJul 6, 2023

@amaditalks @happyborg @andreagrandi The same tools are available to all of us and the fact that we can all personalize our experiences to an equivalent degree is absolutely relevant.

One can't really complain that the firehose one *refuses* to curate isn't a good customized fit.

Show threadAmadi LovelaceJul 6, 2023

@gooba42 @happyborg @andreagrandi it’s not a question of the tools or the curation, it’s a question of the quality and usability of the resource which people need to use to find the accounts that they are curating into their own feed.

You can go for a walk in the rain, less so in a hurricane.

Show threadAmadi LovelaceJul 7, 2023
@gooba42 @happyborg @andreagrandi but no one is *refusing* to curate. Let’s try another metaphor since the firehose didn’t get through to you. If you have a box of 1000 unlabeled, disorganized pens and you want to find only the purple and red ones, it will take some time, but it is doable. If you have 50,000 pens in the box, less so, and 100,000 pens makes the task exponentially more difficult, not just doubly so. Volume matters.
Show threadMarcosJul 7, 2023
@amaditalks @gooba42 @happyborg @andreagrandi And the fact that a not insignificant percentage of those pens are actually razor blades.