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New record set for world's hottest day - as scientist warns milestone is a 'death sentence'

https://lemmy.world/post/1041813

New record set for world's hottest day - as scientist warns milestone is a 'death sentence' - Lemmy.world

> The world has experienced its hottest day on record, according to meteorologists. > The average global temperature reached 17.01C (62.62F) on Monday, according to the US National Centres for Environmental Prediction. > The figure surpasses the previous record of 16.92C (62.46F) - set back in August 2016.

stanleytweedle Jul 4, 2023

People of the future will not look back at us fondly.

Which is why I say screw 'em! Let’s burn this mother down!

Silviecat44 Jul 5, 2023

“When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!”

omni Jul 4, 2023

Heat index of 112F where I am at. FML.

khajimak Jul 5, 2023

It was 90 in my house when I went to bed last night at 11pm (no AC)

Cleetus Jul 5, 2023

Honestly I am a little thankful to hear that the previous record was set in 2016 and not 2022.

gothicdecadence Jul 5, 2023

Same, that was a slight glimmer of hope in the pile of shit

7two Jul 5, 2023

World record lets goooo!

OpenStars Jul 5, 2023

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/JmXC9X2YoYn862qDDCERig--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTM2MQ--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/nerdist_761/5d433f6064cb5a6f0199e896b2c3691d

macisr Jul 5, 2023

There’s a new record for coldest or hottest day like every year, damn.

justhach Jul 5, 2023

Where I live, if you factor in windchill and humidex, we have an ~80°C swing in tenperature. Its crazy.

Not only do I live where the air hurts my face, but now I got to deal with being constantly sweaty for ~3 months of the year.

macisr Jul 5, 2023

Shiet, i’m sorry for that. Even I, that lives in a pretty mild place (normal summer not above 35c and normal winter not below like 10c), had summer in april nd that shit went up to 38c this year. The changes are definetely being felt lol.

📛Maven Jul 5, 2023

You know, I’d never thought of it that way, but same. I had to buy an AC for the first time a couple years ago.

What gets me is that like, where I live, we used to wonder if we’d be seeing a white Halloween. Now we’re lucky for a white Christmas.

RandomlyAssigned Jul 5, 2023

Don’t worry, I’m sure if we all keep doing the same thing this will sort itself out.

sudo Jul 5, 2023

Just add a little nuclear winter and we’re good. So there might be a little radioactive fallout, that’s just a problem for the poors to deal with. Billionaires will be okay in their acre sized underground bunker clubs and that’s what’s important.

RGB3x3 Jul 5, 2023

“Global Warming did happen. But thankfully nuclear winter canceled it out.”

—Leela

Hazdaz Jul 5, 2023

Just bury our heads in the sand, then our torsos, then while you are at it, might as well just start living underground.

Kekzkrieger Jul 5, 2023

At least companies created incredible profits for a small number of shareholders for a short period of time. Totally worth it

tetris11 Jul 5, 2023

That’s a pretty weak take. Do you know how profitable it is to hire a short-gain CEO, pump his stock, sell before the inevitable crash and follow him to his next venture? Immensely so.

Think how great the world would be if everyone did that, jumping from sunken venture to sunken venture, burning through any and all good will, until the only thing that still has worth is the planet you’re on, but even that is nothing because Mars is the next frontier you can sink our money into.

Think before you speak so poorly of those better than yourself

CarbonatedPastaSauce Jul 5, 2023

It’s a joke from a viral editorial cartoon. Don’t be such an antagonistic jerk.

kromem Jul 5, 2023

It’s definitely satire.

trainsaresexy Jul 6, 2023

I think that’s ok. We don’t need to take everything here seriously. You can take it seriously, I can take it satirically. OP can say they can’t remember original intent.

TwoGems Jul 6, 2023

A lot of these deranged rich people think they’ll hide in bunkers from the rest of us after they destroy everything.

theguardian.com/…/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apoc…

The super-rich ‘preppers’ planning to save themselves from the apocalypse

Tech billionaires are buying up luxurious bunkers to survive a societal collapse they helped create, but like everything they do, it has unintended consequences

The Guardian

Skanky Jul 5, 2023

What the heck? I thought this was supposed to be fixed by all of us using paper straws and driving hybrids?

Akulagr Jul 5, 2023

Well in reality there isn’t much we can do as normal folk to reverse or slow down the impending doom of global warming.

It’s all the the hands of the big corporations that we all know are the biggest contributors, to the whole debacle. They are not going to change a damn thing because is all about the extreme profiteering.

ReiRose Jul 5, 2023

This

pedalmore Jul 5, 2023

Yes and no, I think. Obviously one single person can’t make a tangible difference all by themselves, but to stop the thought process there does a massive disservice to the importance of collective action. It doesn’t take all that many people to affect change, both politically and culturally. Join CCL (US focus here), vote and advocate for carbon fee and dividend and other beneficial policies, buy less shit you don’t need, ride a bike if you can, and if you have the means electrify your home/vehicle and support more ethical companies. Basically, don’t blame BP if you’re putting 20 gallons of their shit in your 4runner every week so you can commute to an office job with a permanent rooftop tent and a “save our winters” sticker on the back (yes I live in the front range). You’re not responsible for all of humanity, but you are responsible for your own actions when you have the means to choose a less carbon intensive option.

_wintermute Jul 5, 2023

This is just propaganda from the 90s/00s. The amount of carbon that any one middle class home generates is nothing compared to the private jet class and the corporate desolation of the environment. I hate capitalism. I hate consumerism. I hate cars. But don’t act like the onus is on what basically amounts to a peasant class that already pays for almost everything and does nearly all of the work (the middle class). It’s systemic greed, deregulation, and industrial rape of the world’s resources by shit governments and corporations that have put us here. Stop making the middle class responsible for something they have no power to change even though most of us are anxious as fuck about it. If enough individuals can simultaneously change their carbon footprint to the point that it actually affects the coming consequences, then we should have just formed a general strike already to reverse capitalism caused climate change. But we didn’t.

Dyf_Tfh Jul 5, 2023

The carbon emission from anyone in a developed country is a gargantuan amount compared to the poorest people on earth, especially if you consider the share of CO2 emissions since the industrial revolution.

The “private jet class” you are talking about is the “peasant class” of the developed countrles.

No one want to be accountable, corporate blame it on consumers, consumer blame it on corporate, and the state doesn’t want to act because they fear the backslash from both citizen and corportations.

We urgently need dratisc change that will undoubtedly and severely lower our quality of life. No magic tech is coming to save us.

_wintermute Jul 5, 2023

The “private jet class” you are talking about is the “peasant class” of the developed countrles.

???

WhiteHawk Jul 5, 2023

Don’t you know that people living on minimum wage in the US are all flying private jets?

neanderthal Jul 6, 2023

It is all the corporations but not how anyone thinks. Corporations want you to buy things. That is all. Corporations shifted it to the consumer with the whole reduce, reuse, recycle thing. The average person in the US buys way too many things. The FIRE movement recognized this in the 2010s. Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin figured it out before they wrote the book Your Money or Your Life in the 1990s. Every dollar you spend = emissions.

Last, I present the great George Carlin:

youtu.be/KLODGhEyLvk

Dumb Americans | George Carlin | Life Is Worth Losing (2005)

YouTube

Dyf_Tfh Jul 6, 2023

I agree, we need to reverse the conspicuous consumerism that was promoted by corporate marketing departments. This is not going to be a simple task.

pedalmore Jul 5, 2023

No, it’s propaganda to absolve people from their collective responsibility and blame the nebulous capitalist and corporatism boogeymen while ignoring things they actually can accomplish, like voting for policies and regulations that will have an actual impact. The Soviet Union and China have emitted a shit ton of carbon, but I suppose that’s all capitalism’s fault too. Your post is a walking contradiction - people have no responsibility or agency and shouldn’t bother doing anything, yet are also supposed to general strike and fix everything. Your attitude is pro-status quo and therefore serves the entrenched interests you claim to be rallying against.

_wintermute Jul 5, 2023

like voting for policies and regulations

Ahh yes, the “just vote harder” argument. Speaking of “pro-status quo” lmao. What is your next advice to those of us who already vote (which is the bare minimum, not some silver bullet that ends all of our problems)?

Climate crisis, corporate ownership of government, and governmental corruption are all reality because you didn’t vote enough, you stupid idiots! /s

pedalmore Jul 5, 2023

Considering huge numbers of people don’t vote at all, and many others that do vote against their self interests and for their short term gain over environmental policies, we collectively have a lot of work to do on this front. I agree voting is the bare minimum but it bears repeating since we suck at it.

If you actually care about my “next advice”, you should be writing your reps, nationally and locally, on a regular basis, you should organize with groups like CCL, and you should get involved in local transportation and housing policy discussions. What’s your job/career? Can you enact any change there, or move to a job that has more opportunity? I could go on and on. Not attacking you personally, but most folks I’ve met with the doom and gloom, not my problem attitude don’t do fuck all.

You’re asking me what people can do and I’ve given multiple examples. What are your ideas? All I’m hearing is we should have done a general strike and killed capitalism, as if cheap natural gas is only a problem when a capitalist burns it for profit.

abessman Jul 6, 2023

Here’s the thing though: The collective carbon footprint of the middle class absolutely dwarfs that of the private jet class.

The middle class is responsible, the middle class will pay, and honestly I’m here for it.

_wintermute Jul 6, 2023

Fret not, clown! The middle class will be dead and your billionaire buddies will be treating each other like loot drops because none of this is being reversed. Fucking pick me peasant lmao get the fuck out of here.

abessman Jul 7, 2023

Billionaires ain’t no buddies of mine. They will be able to buy their way free of the worst of the climate disaster, and that sucks.

But the middle class, at least, will have to pay their dues. And that does not suck.

zeppo Jul 6, 2023

The issue is people who consume/pollute 10x as much as others per person. People can try to reduce their footprint but it’s pretty lame when some rich person creates as much pollution in one unnecessary plane trip as my household would all year.

abessman Jul 7, 2023

The issue is people who consume/pollute 10x as much as others per person.

Indeed, but 10x doesn’t cut it. The middle class pollutes about 100x more than the lower class per capita. But they’ll get what’s coming to them.

zeppo Jul 7, 2023

Okay, so my point was wealthy people dramatically exceed that figure, too. Your claim about total pollution isn’t that convincing since yes, obviously 150,000,000 middle class people have more of an impact than 1,000,000 very wealthy people. But per-capita, for sure the people taking private jets blow away the middle class. But is the average American wasteful? Sure. However also our society has been set up so it’s very difficult to live without a car and a ton of semi-disposable manufactured items. People emerging from poverty in countries like India and China have shown plenty of enthusiasm to live in the same wasteful way as the middle class in the west, so… also not sure what your point is. Those people don’t pollute as much because they can’t afford to, not because they’re morally superior.

abessman Jul 7, 2023

obviously 150,000,000 middle class people have more of an impact than 1,000,000 very wealthy people.

And that is a problem from a social perspective. But from a climate perspective, focusing on the wealthy is nothing more than an attempt to shift blame.

our society has been set up so it’s very difficult to live without a car and a ton of semi-disposable manufactured items.

Society has not been set up like that by accident. This, too, is the fault of the middle class, for being lazy fucks who would rather drive their car everywhere than look for alternative modes of transport; for eating meat two or even three meals a day, every day; for choosing to live in their mcmansions in car dependant suburban sprawls instead of denser housing; etc. etc.

People emerging from poverty in countries like India and China have shown plenty of enthusiasm to live in the same wasteful way as the middle class in the west

They are part of the problem, of course.

also not sure what your point is.

The point is that over the next several decades, a lot of people will get what they fucking deserve 👍

zeppo Jul 7, 2023

The people who suffer the most will be people in developing countries, already subsisting on sketchy agriculture and short on fresh water, when they’re hit the hardest by climate change and lack resources to migrate or change their lifestyle.

abessman Jul 7, 2023

Absolutely. And that sucks. But I derive a certain catharsis from knowing that at least some of the people responsible will suffer along with them.

Akulagr Jul 5, 2023

I’ve been trying to make changes to my consuming habits for a good number of years in pro of contributing (however small it might be) to the climate change fight. But, just as on wintermule says in the comments. It might be a lost fight for us mere individuals.

Just look at the data and then you’ll realise that corporatins have been screwing the planet for a long long time now.

🦘min0nim🦘Jul 5, 2023

It’s not a lost fight at all. The largest single contributors to global warming are :

Driving ICE cars.

Electrical power from fossil

It’s very easy for people to make some choices to put a huge dent in both of these…if they want to.

The sad fact is that when confronted by this, most people I speak so make excuses about why they couldn’t possibly make changes to their own lives.

Yes, these are systemic issues. But don’t pretend you’re powerless - that’s just a fucking cop-out.

Shaded Cosmos Jul 5, 2023

If their consumers aren’t setting a good example then why should they? They don’t care as long as we don’t.

zefiax Jul 5, 2023

No that just helps us from setting even more new records 40 years from now.

Strangle Jul 5, 2023

No no no, you don’t understand. Now you have to stop eating meat and they need your permission to block out the sun

Maggoty Jul 5, 2023

I wanted them to start that project a decade ago… It’s going to be over the pole to mimic the ice cap effect.

Vlhacs Jul 5, 2023

Unironically, yes we really should eat much less meat and use more renewables sources of energy (like blocking out the sun with solar panels)

DrummyB Jul 5, 2023

I always find it strange that the most immediate and effective change any individual can make is giving up or greatly reducing their animal product intake. Will it fix the world? No. But would it actually at least somewhat of a difference? Yes. Is it something you can do right now, today, without any real effort whatsoever? Yep.

But what is pretty much no one willing to do? Give up/reduce animal products in their lives.

It was the easiest change I ever made. 31 years ago. No meat. No dairy. No eggs.

Oh, and no car.

Guess that’s too hard for people and they’d rather die in a war over water.

People don’t make any sense.

trainsaresexy Jul 6, 2023

I don’t totally understand this either, though recently maybe more I understand it better. Seems like people cannot live without those things. I know someone who started crying when she realized she couldn’t spend as much money as before (only to use the crying to get more money to buy things). Or my sister, who asks my parents for money all the time so she can maintain her chosen lifestyle. If she can’t do that then life becomes difficult. It boggles my mind that ‘difficult’ is not being able to vacation twice a year but whatever.

The stress that less-vulnerable people experienced during covid when the main thing they had to do was not expand their social life for a year or two was a good example of how people are. The anger at not being able to go to the bar every weekend was nuts to me.

Few people can live a monastic life and feel like they are fulfilled, and fewer if any will feel good about that kind of life if they are forced into it. So who and how are they making those choices? We aren’t taught to be frugal, we’re taught to spend, it’s our education towards living a “good life”.

I think if you got people to stop eating meat and driving 2 blocks to the grocery store they’d grow depressed, frustrated, productivity would drop, birth rates would drop, life expectancy would drop. People need that stuff to feel good about their lives, and if you want to take it away you either need a near perfect competitor or take it away by force.

Nataratata Jul 6, 2023

People do these things to fight negative emotions. If you want people to change their ways being arrogant and not showing any empathy won’t help.

Anybody who is dependent on consumerism got to that point because society sells these things like tasty food, vacation, alcohol, tech gadgets, etc., as an easy fix for pain and other internal struggles. It’s not about teaching them to be frugal. Almost everybody has something they rely on to deal with their negative emotions, but it’s easier to see in others than in ourselves.

trainsaresexy Jul 6, 2023

What? Arrogant how? I feel like we’re saying the same thing here.

Nataratata Jul 9, 2023

Sorry, I didn’t mean this on you specifically. Just that we can not tell people (as a society) to just live more frugal without addressing the overall problems that drive so many into consumerism. It’s a bit like how people treat drug addicts. I see the same in the recent climate debate. Instead of focusing on the root issue, it is reduced to judging other people’s morals or character.

trainsaresexy Jul 6, 2023

Oh I guess I wasn’t clear, but I absolutely see this in myself. That’s how I came to this conclusion recently because I’ve been cutting back so much and I realized that I can’t, I just can’t. I need a beer on the weekend, I need to enjoy a meal at a restaurant every once in a while, I love the convenience of using a car to get somewhere.

But I am for sure judgy of people who seem to make zero effort and take any intrusion on their lifestyle to be ‘too much’. I mean driving 2 blocks to the grocery store? Really. They are able bodied people.

bozzwtf Jul 5, 2023

Paper straws? lol Recycling Aluminum? whoa babyyyyy

Skyrmir Jul 6, 2023

I will never understand how anyone bought into the paper straw bullshit keeping plastic out of the ocean. It’s just so fucking ludicrous. Sure, plastic straws sit in our land fills for 500 years, but they have leach fields and containment ponds and multiple layers of contamination control.

Meanwhile there are entire fleets of fishing vessels, streaming thousands of miles of plastic fishing net through the ocean, every single day.

But yeah, it’s the fucking McDonalds drinking straws that are the problem…

Gerula Jul 6, 2023

I see it as a first and necessary step. Remember the CFCs in deodorants and the effect of banning them?