Aurynn ShawFinding I pretty strongly agree with this post
https://ianbetteridge.com/2023/06/21/meta-and-mastodon-whats-really-on-peoples-minds/
yuvipanda@aurynn love the freedom of speech vs association call out too
@yuvipanda For me, freedom of association is the biggest part of what makes the fediverse work. Federation is a privilege, not a right.
The Nexus of Privacy
Dillon Pentz@aurynn Yeah, this is a very sensible take.
I definitely was in the "wait and see" camp, but even then that was always with an incredibly heavy amount of skepticism and concern, and I think I might be coming around to just nuking it from the start.
@dillon "wait-and-see" just seems like a good way to hurt communities and be reactive to that hurt, and question whether it's "enough" hurt to justify anything.
Instead of just saying "any hurt is too much".
@aurynn Yeah, and even when I was more thinking along those lines, it was with the idea that any misstep at all would forfeit any kind of federation.
I think my current position has changed to not federating, and reassessing in the future only if they have managed to avoid hurt or missteps (doubtful)
@dillon We can always choose to federate later 🙂
Just Jo@aurynn That podcast example is also hilariously wrong. Podcasting is not free and open. You have to *pay* people to upload a podcast. If you want it on any of the platforms where people actually are it will cost you, and it will not be cheap. Unless you are signed to a network. Try getting signed with your nobody podcast.
I can't think of less free part of the internet than podcast and music streaming.
@JoTheBuzzyard also podcasting has remained (relatively) open because everyone has fought the big company efforts to wall it off tooth and nail every time.
bazkie bumpercar | unfluencer@aurynn I think this whole debate is kinda misunderstood. Instances can block or not block, based on their own policy. That is the beauty of the fediverse. So we don't need to universally choose whether or not to block Meta. People who like blocking will flock to instances that block them, and the other way around. It's all good.
I do find the article kinda misleading btw; the title is "what's really on people's minds" but then it will only quote people on one side lol
@bazkie this is, in general, my take. Every instance gets to decide on their own terms of association, and that's a strength of the fedi as a whole.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴Disagree.
You don't work with organizations that have a blatant disregard for the law and other people's privacy.
Yesterday, the #CJEU ruled against #Meta (C-252/21.)
Things are way worse than most people think. It is not just about commercialization.
It is about individual security.
This is what an audit at #Facebook called the #ProjectAnalyticaSummit found (longer thread, just look at the summary about #Zuckerberg and then click on the thread link):
@HistoPol Did you ... read the post I linked?
Patrick Ross@aurynn thanks for sharing this, it actually totally changed my mind about this.
Sue Strong@aurynn I don’t trust Meta with my data, not just monetizing it but ever since my data was stolen by Cambridge Analytica to help Trump I refused to share anything personal then deleted my account. Lots of friends are there, many Trump supporters. I don’t discuss politics with them. The algorithm FB used was problematic. Felt a little safer on the #BirdSite but did get threats. Huge blocklist. Worse now under Elon.