evacideIf you're asking "Why don't Americans riot like the French?" but you also complain whenever there's a protest and someone breaks a storefront window, I see you and you make me so goddamn tired.
Jay@evacide Does France have militarized police that will kill citizens with impunity?
Phlawless@synoisia @evacide The reason the current riots broke out is precisely because militarized cops killed a (young brown) citizen with impunity
I've commented elsewhere about "Left-wing American exceptionalism" which assumes that US cops must be more horrible than everywhere else
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/493080/france-riots-shot-teenager-s-grandmother-urges-calm
Le Néandertal se sent las, las@daphlawless @synoisia @evacide 3 years ago, French cops killed a guy name Cedric Chouviat, who was driving a scooter. They put a knee on his neck until he died. His last words were "I can't breathe". Sounds familiar?
(Yet the French police kills "only" 40 people per year. That's much less than in the US of course, even accounting for the population size)
Guillaume Rossolini@HydrePrever
This figure of 40 takes into account all their activities, not just riot control
It appears that he died two days later, though?
cf. Page 26
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/sites/minint/files/medias/documents/2021-07/igpn-rapport-2020.pdf
@GuillaumeRossolini he had a cardiac arrest on the sport but was reanimated later
@HydrePrever @GuillaumeRossolini I asked because every time someone would post on Twitter that "Americans should riot" we see video of French citizens throwing firebombs and punching it out with the French police, where like just in Akron Ohio recently the police immediately gassed a peaceful protest and stole protestors cars.
The way things are shown makes it seem like the French citizens largely act without the consequences American's face.
They have been hurting individuals here too, whether intentionally or not, and taking part in a peaceful protest can get you a lost eye or unwarranted beating
Quite unsafe either way
The report I shared earlier states that half the complaints against our police are about physical violence. In 2020, that was about 450 investigations that led to proposed disciplinary action against 122 agents.
So there is a form of accountability, but I don’t know if it goes all the way
@synoisia @GuillaumeRossolini well really, we've got our share of mutilated pacific manifestants, and many very symbolic deaths too, whether in a manifestations context or after a simple police control. I assume you've read about Nahel, I've pointed Cedric Chouviat, there's Zyed Benna and Bouna Traoré, Rémi Fraisse, Zineb Redouane... It's probable that there's a difference in scale, but the idea that the French can riot or even manifest pacifically without facing consequences is not founded.