To anyone thinking about joining BlueSky, especially artists: everything you post is sent to a third party for AI labeling.

BlueSky uses AI to label content for moderation, and to do that they use a company called https://thehive.ai. If you look through their privacy policy, you will see that they can use content sent to them to train models for all their services, which include generative AI for both text and images.

Update: https://meow.social/@FluffyDeveloper/110652053858910840

#ai #bluesky

@FluffyDeveloper oh wait what? That's... not good!

Tbh, I still don't really know what BlueSky is, but I've seen that name often.

@SteffoSpieler It's another social media network created by the same people who backed Twitter and Nostr. Instead of going with ActivityPub however, they decided to make their own VC-backed protocol called AT.

The protocol itself is not too bad, but its controlled by private companies and BlueSky has decided to basically avoid moderation and offload everything to AI labelling.

In short: it's decentralised Twitter with venture capitalists trying to control their own fediverse :/

@FluffyDeveloper okay, uhh. that's... not good.
Good to know though! I'll stick with Mastodon for now anyway ^^
@FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler some things to note, it's currently not decentralized, and labelling posts and accounts, as well as public block lists, are the only form of moderation on there
@charlotte @SteffoSpieler Indeed, the fact that they don't allow other instances yet is suspicious and their approach to moderation (which is non-existent really) is just begging to turn it into a N**I bar.
@charlotte @SteffoSpieler @FluffyDeveloper we recently learned that bluesky lets people post hate speech and then asks if you personally want to see it? talk about having your cake and eating it too
@bugsong @SteffoSpieler @FluffyDeveloper as i understand it the main forms of “moderation” bluesky has (if it opens up federation) is ai generated labels, community labels, and public blocklists. Right now they have a few more knobs in theory
@FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler
So disgusting that VCs can't be noble and not motivated by greed,

@FluffyDeveloper
that is really Shity so instead of integrating activity pub they made their own protocol to control their own fediverse that's not really a fediverse at that point that's more of a blue sky verse lol

but since the code is open source can somebody just yank it and just integrate activity pub and make a better site?

@epicEaston197 Yep!

And instead of doing actual moderation they just use AI to label content and leave users to fend for themselves.

At that point you might as well use ActivityPub with Mastodon, Calckey, or other. Even removing the AI labeling from other instances (if they are ever allowed) may not do much because that content will eventually make its way into the original main instance.

@FluffyDeveloper
okay but I wanna say this again as a separate reply is it possible to yank thesaurus code since it's "open source" could this mean that we can just get rid of the protocol and replace it with activity pub and just make a better site for the fediverse?

Similar to how Calckey is a fork of Misskey?

@epicEaston197 Possibly, the bluesky app is built around that protocol, so to switch it over to AP would require so much refactoring and rewriting that it would be easier to just use it as a design template and make something new from scratch.
@FluffyDeveloper
that's what I'm afraid of because that protocol is built into every aspect of that app it would take even more work to create another protocol that's a bridge between activity pub and there protocol so you can still have federation work
@FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler they're also not planning to enable blocking (Jack Dorsy has always been against it, because 'free speech') for me, that makes it absolutely a no go.

@Rhube @FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler their current position is that they’re exploring blocking but are concerned about the “cost” (for whatever metric they’re using as a cost function) of blocking “at scale”.

Because apparently “kick off the harassers everyone blocks” is too much to ask.

@PennyOaken @Rhube @FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler It's like these people forgot how toxic unmoderated forums were in the 2000's and how moderated spaces were lively and active.

@mic @PennyOaken @Rhube @FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler

no, they didn't forget.

Distracted angry plebes fighting amongst themselves is -the- primary way exploitative pieces of garbage manage to get rich.

The "Golden Rule" of all exploitative assholes from pickpockets to VC bros is simple: Distract, Divide and Conquer

@Rhube @FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler No blocking is insane. Social media can’t function without it.
@qhstone @Rhube @FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler A user can block other users - it’s the sharing of large scale block lists (that is especially helpful for folks trying to avoid, say, notsees) that is not enabled AFAIK.

@FluffyDeveloper @SteffoSpieler they saw a demand for decentralized social media services, and wanted to make their own corporate spin of it to take advantage of consumers long term?

very sickening.

@FluffyDeveloper
We read that description of BlueSky and need to take a shower now.
@SteffoSpieler
@SteffoSpieler @FluffyDeveloper
Bluesky Social is the new app launched by Jack Dorsey after he resigned as Twitter's CEO. He was a co-founder of Twitter.
He has some fairly alarming tendencies, for those of us who look askance at fascism, pushing cryptocurrencies, and more.
Read this story from 2018 or search out more as you like.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/04/twitters-ugly-incentive/
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