Kbin, FUD, and Tribalism - Where do we go from here?

It finally happened: many Reddit 3rd party apps have officially shut down. With it comes an influx of users looking for a new place.... #fediverse #lemmy #kbin #fud #tribalism #tankies #rexxit #reddit #artemis #kbinMeta

https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/126728

Kbin, FUD, and Tribalism - Where do we go from here? - /kbin meta - kbin.social

It finally happened: many Reddit 3rd party apps have officially shut down. With it comes an influx of users looking for a new place....

We won't stay on kbin forever anyway. Let's face it, if we are on kbin it's because we fled reddit and we saw that lemmy was...weird. As soon as a sane other implementation of a forum/microblogging using activitypub is proven to be robust there will be another migration. And it will probably involve actors like Facebook and co.

Now that people made the initial jump of leaving reddit they will be more inclined to making another jump to a platform that suit them better.

But it won't be just about technicalities but also about language and community. I'm not a fan of the lemmy agenda, but I'm also not a fan of the american soft power leaking in every sub. And to fight this a regional instance of activitypub tools will be very welcome.

I agree on this, too. Kbin is a weird name for masses to adapt, for example. We're back in the Wild West regarding this form of social media, and the result of that will hopefully be innovation and reiteration of established standards.

Hard agree on the American soft power, too. I was surprised there were so many German instances on the fediverse already. I don't really want to interact with Dutch posts though, so if those pop up that's a hard filter from me.

With eyes on the future of the fediverse, I would prefer not ending up with another Facebook-like situation where 'one place' is the 'default' place - where the 'default' place is run by people less trustworthy than Mark Zuckerberg.

Whats wrong with Dutch posts?

I actually like seeing the posts in other languages. Imagine what using traditional social media like Reddit was like for other countries? Why are English speakers suddenly unable to cope when the tables are turned? (In general, not saying that’s you!)

Personally, I’d love some kind of built-in translation options. Tag the different language but allow an auto-translate user setting so everything can be switched to one’s native language.

I love the idea of interacting with the parts of the world, or speakers, that don’t participate in English.

I am Dutch, and I personally loathe Dutch content. Seeing the inane 'gekoloniseerd' spam any time anything Dutch was mentioned grew tiresome quickly. Add to that that a lot of posted content centers around Randstad issues, this vague sense of holier-than-thou dialogue, and I felt even less compelled to interact with Dutch online spaces. I may be a bit jaded - but Holland is not the Netherlands.

I can read Swedish, French, and German - and those occasionally visible spaces, apart from the meme-focused instances, seem far more mature and focused in their conversations.

I can understand what you’re saying, something about the pervading online community doesn’t fit for you. Can’t say I’m familiar because I can’t speak Dutch ;) German and English for me.

Thanks for the answer!