Rob Vincent (OLD ACCOUNT)Jul 2, 2023

Reddit has now sufficiently broken their own site that moderators of the blind community's subreddit who are themselves blind can no longer access the moderator tools.

This statement by the mod team is worth a read to understand the full extent of the failure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14nzwkm/they_finally_did_it_reddit_made_it_impossible_for/

Edit: it's also worth noting that this community now has a dedicated Lemmy instance. https://RBlind.com

Edit 2: Here are archived copies of the mod team's post for those who don't want to click a Reddit link.
https://archive.is/1bk6N
https://web.archive.org/web/20230703134218/https://old.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14nzwkm/they_finally_did_it_reddit_made_it_impossible_for/

#blind #accessibility #reddit

They finally did it: Reddit made it impossible for blind Redditors to moderate their own sub

Since the [latest "accessibility" update to the Reddit app](https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/14n9426/), the amount and magnitude of new...

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Show threadCasey Reeves (it/its)Jul 2, 2023
@Rob_T_Firefly Good thing that r/blind moderators had planned for their instance on lemmy before it went even more bad!
Show threadCassandrich
@xogium @Rob_T_Firefly Moving is absolutely the right move, but lawyering up to fuck Reddit would be awesome too.
Jul 2, 2023 at 8:39pmWeb
Show threadSean Eric FaganJul 3, 2023
@dalias @xogium @Rob_T_Firefly The ADA has *really big* teeth.
Show threadCasey Reeves (it/its)Jul 3, 2023

@kithrup @dalias @Rob_T_Firefly Personally I would just not bother.

I mean, sure accessibility is important, but with the way reddit CEO has been acting, and reddit folks over all, I think it's just suiting to leave them to wallow in their own dug grave they've been busy at making. Leave them to rot, and long live the fediverse.

Show threadSean Eric FaganJul 3, 2023
@xogium @dalias @Rob_T_Firefly The ADA allows an affected person to sue to get the changes done, and recover legal costs.
Show threadCasey Reeves (it/its)Jul 3, 2023

@kithrup @dalias @Rob_T_Firefly I wonder how much of that is actually true or worth it.

If it was true, why are so many apps and websites still not accessible to us? Like *cough* uber eats.

Like, I'm just doubtful it even matters that much, but it might be my scinical side talking.

Show threadSean Eric FaganJul 3, 2023
@xogium @dalias @Rob_T_Firefly There are a bunch of factors that go into it, but if you *had* accessibility, and *made it worse*, most of those go away.
Show threadCasey Reeves (it/its)Jul 3, 2023

@kithrup @dalias @Rob_T_Firefly Can we say that they had it though? Also then that means uber eats can be attacked for this too.

Tons and tons of unlabelized buttons in the main screen of the uber eats app on ios for about a month by now, it moves you this way and that on the screen also.

Android's app is no better, as it has the move everywhere problem on top of not saying the names of items when you're trying to buy grossery.

Show threadSean Eric FaganJul 3, 2023
@xogium @dalias @Rob_T_Firefly As I am not impacted, and am not a lawyer, not much I can do. (I *have* had to implement various accessibility things, however.)
Show threadCassandrichJul 3, 2023
@xogium @kithrup @Rob_T_Firefly Point is to further burn down prospects for an IPO.
Show threadRob Vincent (OLD ACCOUNT)Jul 3, 2023
@xogium @kithrup @dalias Folks giving up and leaving them to it is exactly what they want. They don't want to suffer the social, legal, or public-relations consequences of their crappy actions.
Show threadCasey Reeves (it/its)Jul 3, 2023
@Rob_T_Firefly @kithrup @dalias So what wopuld you recommend then? What's something we could do? Besides the ADA complain that is.
Show threadCassandrichJul 3, 2023
@xogium @Rob_T_Firefly @kithrup Everything that accelerates the burning of the company and cuts off their opportunities to stop bleeding cash.
Show threadCasey Reeves (it/its)Jul 3, 2023
@Rob_T_Firefly @kithrup @dalias Oops, typoed the last message but yeah... What's something that would have enough of an impact?
Show threadRob Vincent (OLD ACCOUNT)Jul 3, 2023

@xogium @kithrup @dalias One thing is to keep shouting it from the mountaintops like we're doing. Spread the word, make sure that people out there are aware of what Reddit is doing and at what cost.

For most people out there Reddit is some big website they may or may not know much about, maybe they use it and maybe they don't, but it's popular enough that the mainstream is pretty aware it's a thing that exists. An optimal outcome would be spreading the word so successfully that the average person on the street goes from "Reddit... that's a website, right? I've seen links from it once or twice" to "Reddit... that's that website that screws over people with disabilities, right? I saw a thing on the news about how they don't care."

Show threadCassandrichJul 3, 2023
@Rob_T_Firefly @xogium @kithrup CEO really has no idea what he wants except to lash out at everyone who doesn't respect his authority. Making him "find out" via what happens to his job when the IPO implodes is gonna be sweet.