My attitude on the Kolektiva breach is close to what my attitude was when I pointed out Riseup's canary had gone dead and then shit blew up.

It's bad. It's not quite as bad as some people imply. Admins fucked up by failing to have better security from get-go, but they're not maliciously or dishonest and some of their moves make some sense. Still. The catastrophe was locked in when radicals accepted community centralization. Probably their greater sin is de facto encouraging that centralization.

Generally in these cases part of the reason the community centralizes is that the admins are elders with wide connections and respect from eons doing shit. This means that they really do care and have generally good practices, and are sincerely trying their best re the trolley problems that involve how much to reveal on certain things.

But goddamn, I'm sick of older anarchist techies like Moxie w Signal embracing centralization.

I say that while continuing to sit on mastodon .social, because I don't trust a small server to not fall over in a year from admin life situation stuff and force me to rebuild followers on an endless treadmill, and I've long been worried Kolektiva would go down from its centralization as THE anarchist server. We need better ways to backup and transfer and we need better ways to bootstrap new admins with the tools to keep smaller servers up.
@rechelon I think we need to even do more decentralization. Host the website on the devices of the users.

@Riyadh144 @rechelon A bit untenable due to uptime & routing complications.

Rather, message-orientation and gossip-peering would work better.

Many people are screwed over by CGNAT and cannot peer without intermediary nodes anyway.