Jamie Levy 🦉

This shit is why people stop contributing to open source and releasing open source projects: predatory companies taking open source projects and calling them their own with little or not contributions back. It burns innovation and demoralizes creators who keep pushing the needle.

As hard as it is for people to break into infosec, people often release open source projects to prove their worth. This kind of shit can ruin that spirit. As a long time member of the #DFIR open source community, I feel like I need to call BS where I see it. Companies must be held accountable and should abide by licensing and contribute back as warrented by said licensing. I hope to see some contributions and good faith back to https://cipp.app/

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/matthe_so-excited-about-this-one-microsoft-365-activity-7080485615812653056-7UXq

#opensource #theft #predatory #datto #msp

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Show threadJamie Levy 🦉Jul 1, 2023

There’s an update on this from Kelvin (the author of CIPP) and it includes screenshots:

https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/14nx2th/kasetto_rips_off_cipp_calls_it_influenced_by/jqbithb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3

Kasetto rips off CIPP - calls it influenced by

Hey everyone, sorry for the late response but I was a little ill this weekend. I've seen most of you get outraged about the CIPP-Datto clone and...

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Show threadJerry 🦙💝🦙Jul 1, 2023
@gleeda the responses to that LI post are pretty good.
Show thread4dw@r3  🦬Jul 1, 2023
@jerry @gleeda he's locked commenting on it 😆
Show threadJerry 🦙💝🦙Jul 1, 2023
@witch_of_winter @gleeda hah! He was getting roasted
Show threadJamie Levy 🦉Jul 1, 2023

@jerry @witch_of_winter

There’s an update on this from the CIPP author: https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/14nx2th/kasetto_rips_off_cipp_calls_it_influenced_by/jqbithb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3

Kasetto rips off CIPP - calls it influenced by

Hey everyone, sorry for the late response but I was a little ill this weekend. I've seen most of you get outraged about the CIPP-Datto clone and...

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Show thread4dw@r3  🦬Jul 1, 2023
@gleeda @jerry oh wow, that's even worse somehow. That is so blatantly illegal im sure the developer of CIPP could sue for a VERY large sum. Especially if he has the declination of higher level sponsorship in writing.
Show thread4dw@r3  🦬Jul 1, 2023
@gleeda the inclusion of the typos, reminds me of the practice cartographers have of leaving intentional errors to avoid copycats.
Show threadCody Dostal Jul 1, 2023
@gleeda Disgusting. I’m glad it’s being called out, but I doubt they’ll change course at all.
Show threadJamie Levy 🦉Jul 1, 2023
@dostalcody it’s difficult to make companies like this course correct. And unfortunately it’s difficult to enforce some of these open source licenses when the offenders outweigh you as well
Show threadBen RamseyJul 1, 2023
@gleeda @dostalcody Since it’s licensed under AGPLv3, @conservancy might be able to help with enforcement.
Show threadSteven RooseJul 1, 2023
@gleeda @jerry If we would abolish #copyright it wouldn't be a problem. They'd use our stuff but every company would have at least one employee leaking the source code and everyone could use all code these companies make internally.
Show threadSteven RooseJul 1, 2023
@gleeda @jerry FOSS people are all about licenses and stuff while IMO instead we should all be about abolishing copyright. At least on code.
Show threadalphakometJul 1, 2023
@gleeda
C Dutz wrote about this in his Blog too.
https://github.com/chrisdutz/blog/blob/main/plc4x/free-trial-expired.adoc
blog/plc4x/free-trial-expired.adoc at main · chrisdutz/blog

Contribute to chrisdutz/blog development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Show threadspencercmdJul 1, 2023
@gleeda holy shit I used to use and contribute to CIPP..this is mind boggling..
Show threadJamie Levy 🦉Jul 1, 2023
@sebian There’s an update on this from Kelvin with screenshots: https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/14nx2th/kasetto_rips_off_cipp_calls_it_influenced_by/jqbithb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
Kasetto rips off CIPP - calls it influenced by

Hey everyone, sorry for the late response but I was a little ill this weekend. I've seen most of you get outraged about the CIPP-Datto clone and...

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Show threadTekknovatorJul 1, 2023
@gleeda Here is a little benefit of doubt. That CEO is pretty good at bullshjt bingo and has the cooperate doublespeak of a bad guy in 1984. He should just have announced CIPP integration openly, instead of trying to pass it off as his own product.
But at least they claim In the comments to be funding CIPP. That is not nothing. Anyone knows how much? Would be interesting to see if he puts his money where his mouth is.
Show threadJamie Levy 🦉Jul 1, 2023
@tekknovator There’s an update on this from the CIPP author: https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/comments/14nx2th/kasetto_rips_off_cipp_calls_it_influenced_by/jqbithb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
Kasetto rips off CIPP - calls it influenced by

Hey everyone, sorry for the late response but I was a little ill this weekend. I've seen most of you get outraged about the CIPP-Datto clone and...

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Show threadTekknovatorJul 2, 2023
@gleeda thanks for sharing. Crazy story. I follow this because I try to find sustainable FOSS business/financing models. For the niche I am in (audio software), it looks pretty bleak.