Italian ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น passport renewal:

* Bring own document photocopy (cannot be the passport, which is already sufficient ID ๐Ÿคฆ)
* Bring proof of payment (first type), has to be done at a specific kind of shop
* Bring proof of payment (second type - yes, a second one!), which has to be done at a post office (only possible in person)
* Take an appointment 6 months before
* Wait for another 3 months for the passport, because "we didn't have time to make a new one yet"

Practically, a massive waste of time

Now imagine this kind of waste of time, but at every level.
This could've been "show up, give the passport, tap your phone for payment", but nope...
@ocramius it sounds like a lot of protecting some jobs that shouldn't exist.
@ocramius and it would still take 9 months, so at least you have something to do during that time ๐Ÿ˜
@ocramius But hey, you wouldn't have enjoyed the sun, the sea, the traffic, the queue...
@ocramius sounds a bit like Germany ๐Ÿ˜‚
Oh, I forgot: you also need to drive 100km to another city, because the local office can't process other passports for another year
@ocramius holy shit that sounds like a nightmare!
@brunty this is like legacy code, but in institutions

@ocramius makes the UK look amazing in comparison!

* Get photo taken to specs (either yourself, or at a photo store who give you a reference you can enter on the online form for the Govt to automatically download the photo)
* Enter details online
* Pay Online
* Get a referee to confirm your identity (online)
* Passport shows up a month later

@ocramius though, if you need special circumstances etc, there are offices you go to for interviews etc (for stuff like short notice passports etc) and I imagine if you're moving back from another country there'll be complications and I haven't experienced that side of it all which could likely be hell
@brunty nothing special to be done here ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
@brunty @ocramius wait, at which point do you go to collect fingerprints? Or you just donโ€™t?
@kassner @ocramius There are no fingerprints for UK passport
@brunty @ocramius yeah it's not often I think our system works well but passport renewal is pretty easy

@ocramius Legacy code would be far more effective in term of resources.

@brunty

@ocramius is this not a Scene from that Asterix movie?

Anyways so heartworming to see that is an international experience to have govermental entities driving people to insanity.