DeadNinjaYouTube tests disabling videos for people using ad blockers
KoboldCoterie“We want to inform viewers that ad blockers violate YouTube’s Terms of Service, and make it easier for them to allow ads on YouTube or try YouTube Premium for an ad free experience,” the company said in its email to The Verge.
Wow, thanks, YouTube! I always had such a hard time disabling my ad blocker - I’m so glad you’ve made it easier for me!
Really, though, I don’t see this ending well for YouTube. I’d bet there’ll be an ad blocking option that works to bypass this within a week.
Em AdespotonWithin a week? I think my ad blocker already handles it; I haven’t noticed ads on YouTube ever, on my own devices, and haven’t seen their latest messaging either.
TenthrowGoogle can be counted on to make everything worse at all opportunities.
don't be evil
They got rid of that motto years ago, and it’s been quite a ride ever since.
hardypartThey didn't, it's still at the very end of their code of conduct.
Really? I just remembering that it was a big deal with they dropped it. Maybe it's still there but no longer the motto?
Well, at least we can count on them to cancel this initiative in short order.
Corporations in general. Reddit with their API prices, Adobe with their montly subscription for rotating pages in the Adobe Reader, Netflix with their lockdown on account sharing... Capitalism yay!
Everyone’s out for their pound of flesh and man, does it hurt. 🥴
AlexanderTheGreatWankers.
KooMSlayer69Can youtube not try to fuck people over for 5 minutes?
sudoCan <insert basically any corporation> not try to fuck people over for 5 minutes?
I’m not super opposed for paying for a product or service that I use, but the cost they are asking is just too expensive for me. Not that I can’t afford it, but for the 16/month or 23/month for family doesn’t meet my personal value/service.
BraveSirZaphodNot that it's a massive difference, but it's $11.99 if you sign up on the web. The $16 is if you sign up on an iPhone, since that has to go through Apple's subscription service where they take a cut.
Thank you, didn’t know that.
Confetti CamouflageWhen YT Premium first started as YT Red they were trying to make original shows like Netflix and Amazon. AFAIK they’re not really doing that anymore, so the break even cost of an ad-free experience should be significantly lower.
Just buy from another country. I pay about £4 a month for mine via Romania
BriongloidI pay $2.30 pm for a Family Plan via Turkey.
Mine comes out to about £1.40 a month using Turkey. It’s really low, but honestly that’s the amount that feels worth it to me.
circuitfarmerEven if it were affordable, eventually it will go up. The subscribe-to-everything trend in business right now is pretty clear. Pretty soon we’ll see subscription-based clothing.
I just gave them som pund hoppfull youtube will shut up now. Some Egyptian pund you see 😏 (2.13$ a month)
CifrareVerbaThis doesn’t make any sense to me; people who are determined to go out of their way to get something (like an adblocker) will just continue playing cat and mouse games.
It’s like a game of chess, google can pull a stupid move but devs and users will always work around it.
And also, are people who are determined not to watch advertising going to be the ones that cave and buy some crap if you can force them to watch it?
I don't think google cares if you buy stuff or not. They are just selling ads.
But I agree with overall idea: if the ads become unavoidable, I'll just stop watching youtube.
Decreasing the convenience of ad blocking, makes the subscription more convenient in comparison.
I used the frequent YouTube but watch less and less as their ads become more invasive and unstoppable.
CallistemonIf I didn't get two back to back 30min videos from a politician running for election in the middle of a kids video I might have hesitated on the ad blocker, slightly. If you know who Clive Palmer is, it gives it more context.
Good ol Fatty McFuckhead!
For reference, he’s an Australian billionaire who in my opinion, isn’t great in character.
fatty
Maybe an unpopular opinion here… but checking my stats, since buying YouTube premium my account has watched over 50 days worth of ad free video content.
Now whilst I wish more of money went to the creators themselves, I can’t pretend I don’t get value out of the subscription. Especially compared to something like Netflix.
I have 6 subscriptions and YouTube is the last one I’d consider cancelling.
How have you seen more than 0 minutes of ads? Ublock blocks them
I have ublock on my desktop but for me with a wife and kids who who have their own devices, the TVs in the house etc, the convenience of never getting ads on any device is really good.
And for me personally I don’t mind paying if I get value in return, and I do.
I do wonder how the subs get split. Like is it just a bonus based on general stats or stats of users paying?
For me I use the phone app and on a TV so not having to setup extra ad blocking nonsense is nice. I also watch it all the time and do want to support people making content. I've done the Patreon thing some and tried to bounce around who I was giving a few dollars to. More convenient if the YouTube sub just benefits the people I'm watching.
My understanding is that for free users watching your content you get a percentage of the ad revenue. But views from premium subscribers earns you a flat rate not dependant on advertisements, and that flat rate is higher than what you’d get from an ad supported view.
The general consensus is YouTube is still greedy with the split , but at least they are offering more from a premium view.
I signed up via Turkish VPN and the TRY currency has only dropped since, 60 TRY is only $2.30 pm for a Family Plan.
dedaleI think there's a moral issue in giving youtube money.
I’d love to hear your view. I haven’t really considered it.
TetraLooks like I might test disabling Youtube from my life then
SkierniewiceBoi@Tetra I wonder if YouTube's fight with ad blockers will convince more people to take a look at peertube and lbry
No it will not. Unfortunately there is no alternative to Youtube.
Parculis Marcilusanother reminder to everyone else that invidious exists
BrikoXThey got contacted by YouTube legal team around the same time experiment news came out.
heliumlakeI’ve already migrated from Twitter to Mastodon, Reddit to Lemmy, looks like I’ll have to test disabling my traffic to YouTube. I control what content reaches my eyes on my devices, not Google. That is a hard line for me.
Might as well go Youtube to PeerTube
I mean, since we’re all here, PeerTube is federated with Lemmy! There are limited numbers of creators on PeerTube right now, but maybe if we can link more videos from there on lemmy and upload some ourselves, we can get the platform into a healthy state. Not that there is nothing there, there is a decent amount uploaded already.
PeerTube won't take off unlike Lemmy did and still does. People won't switch from YouTube to PeerTube because the creators they watch aren't there. Also the YouTube Algorithm is what people make use YouTube in the first place.
Reddit isn't creator based and doesn't necessarily need an Algorithm since the users choose what to see anyways. So the Lemmy experience isn't actually that mich worse than the reddit experience
It’s a really good point. It’s both the algo and the creators the keep us there.
Discoverability is something youtube’s alogrithm really gets right, and something lemmy, or the fediverse in general, just sucks at right now.
Creators also need to make money. I doubt Peertube has ad revenue to split with them.
In fairness to YouTube, creators do keep about half the money (in exchange for YouTube hosting the content).
I don't think that's thaat much of a deal. Most youtubers also need additional revenue streams like patreon and mearch and sponsorships.
yessikgYT algo is hot garbage, I always have to check the channels of the creators I follow manually. I donate through Patreon and I would be happy to bump up my donations to make it easier for them to move to PeerTube
I'm happy paying a Nebula subscription, (another video site started by a group of youtubers, mostly engineering/tech/documentary types) because I know that the creators are getting all my money after reasonable platform costs.
I won't consider paying for YT Premium (or Spotify) until they become a lot more generous to creators, and stop their insane copyright strike algorithm and banned-words audio scanner from demonetising and hiding random videos (Jake Broe, Joe Blogs, Denys Davydov, Ryan McBeth etc are always having to edit and reupload to cut some harmless snippet) and whole channels (Metatron) all the time.
You guys are really getting me into this Nebula thing, I watched videos from there before but I’ll try to use it more instead of YouTube and pay.
I actually used to have YT Premium because I’m a strong believer that nothing is free, so you either pay with data or money (on anything slightly commercial, not counting FOSS projects made as hobby or under foundations etc. as things get more complex then. But even then I pay/donate for some stuff in the same way of reasoning).
Yet I cancled the YT Premium subscription. Simply for one reason, privacy. I don’t mind paying, but then I don’t want just no adds, I also want no tracking. I pay with money, so I don’t want to pay with data as well having a whole profile made.
Switched to NewPipe with sponsorblock on phone and TV and FreeTube on PC. Got a redirect extension in FireFox automatically sending YT videos to either Invidious or Pipe.
If you have an android phone with a Google account, you're being tracked already.
As I be see it, I'm going to be tracked by everything on the internet whether I like it or not. So in the case of YouTube, I may as well support the creators I watch hours of content from.
AetherionSoftware doesn’t has to be this way.
Humans define their own way and the Fediverse is showing us this.
AndreasYou get tracked if you give up and accept the privacy invasions because "the internet is just like that". Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, remove the stock Android and install GrapheneOS/LineageOS/CalyxOS.
I totally understand where you are coming from, as I to pay for YT premium. However; when it comes to tracking, it is one of the few applications that I don’t think works very well without it. Part of why I enjoy it most of the time is the interesting content the algorithm suggests, that I wouldn’t otherwise be aware of.
I don’t know the solution to that problem… Maybe the tracking stays within the YT world only, and isn’t sold or used anywhere else?
pfrI’m surprised I haven’t seen anyone mention Odysee yet