Final thoughts on the Red Hat thing: every supporter of the Red Hat move told me that "it's normal to want to prevent people from stealing the hard work and making a clone of it".

If you think grabbing the code and reusing it is "stealing", you don't understand FOSS.

No matter what RH clones contribute, or if they're worth it. That's not the point. The point is, RH builds their stuff using the GPL, and they have to redistribute using the GPL.

Making access to a specific part of that code harder on purpose goes against the principles of Free Software.

Period. Money doesn't factor into this, value, contribution, they don't matter. FOSS is free to use, whether you contribute or not. FOSS is for everyone, "freeloaders", developers, anyone. That's the very point.

Yes, the code is still technically available with a bit more work in Stream's repos. That's not the issue. The "people are stealing from us" talk is the issue.

When a company that works in FOSS, and depends on it to operate, calls people using their GPL rights "freeloaders", you know they've lost the plot.

That's the problem. The value, the contribution, the development, the clone or not, the business: it DOESN'T MATTER.

@thelinuxEXP I have to say that I agree with your take on this matter.

It wouldn't have really mattered if all they did was move the source code and then make it available to only their paying customers.

This is an issue because they are inhibiting their subscribers as well from exercising the rights given by the GPL and other open source licenses.

At this point, RHEL is just "source available" and not "open source". 😞

@thelinuxEXP It's hard to imagine that they will actually make a complete turnaround right now.

The best we can hope for is that they will at least amend the terms of the agreement to allow subscribers to modify and redistribute the source code.

@ProfessorCode @thelinuxEXP

This redhat news coincidentally happened just after a project considered the CommonsCause to be open source. Which basically adds the same restrictions.

https://fosstodon.org/@lil5/110597625540340612

lil5 :golang: 🌱 (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image A project I contributed a small amount to, recently added a license: #CommonsCause and I thought no much of it, until they started claiming that this license is “open source” I created a pull request to replace it with “source available” but was rejected https://github.com/mormaer/Mlem/pull/240 (Dead link) A warning to anyone who is interested contributing that this is not GPLv3 software it’s CommonsClaused 🔒 #foss #licensing #opensource #osi #mlem #mlemapp #lemmy

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