The more people we can get using adblockers, the better the internet will be for everyone.

Do your part: help get adblockers installed today.

If people say that they rely on advertising money, feel free to remind them that you don’t owe them a working business model
@aurynn then please, unless you donate money directly, do not access the services that rely on ads to fund their operation, thanks! Really sorry that nothing comes for free in this capitalist world.

@brawaru @aurynn

I would rather pay a sub than be forced to watch adverts. It's why I never watch live TV or listen to the radio. Trust me, once you've been ad-free for a few years you start to see them for what they are - psychologically manipulative.

@JaxVent I learned to see that when I was a kid. They rarely make sense otherwise. Spotting manipulation should be grade school curriculum.

@travisfw

Yes it should! Dont know if it's connected but we havn't had live TV or radio since my daughter was 2, she's 13 now, and is fiercly independant in her media and fashion choices. She 'doesnt get' why kids her age are so obsessed with all liking 'the same shit' πŸ˜…

@JaxVent @BeamsAndBows @brawaru @aurynn As much as I personally agree, people have for a very long time consistently demonstrated that they prefer ads to paying up front; television, newspapers, the web and social media all being running examples. I think it is extremely unlikely the we get rid of this pest, ever.

@mapcar @BeamsAndBows @brawaru @aurynn

I don't think people 'prefer' ads. It's more likely that it is accepted as the norm and not everyone is able to say no to them, or aware that they can. Not everyone can afford a sub so would put up with the ads, but in an ideal world where the choice was simple and easy, I can gaurantee most people would choose not to have ads.

@brawaru I do not owe anyone a working business model.
@aurynn and nobody owes your entitled self anything for free. Human work must be paid, hosting has to be paid, investments have to be paid back, etc. Everything in life costs money, and ads is one of the ways to earn them without locking down the service behind paywall. I'd agree that more ethical or integrated approaches are better, e.g. sponsored articles, but that's rarely an option. Most people wouldn't subscribe unless forced, many don't understand the importance of donations.

@brawaru selling my attention to advertisers is the business model, yes, and I reject being the product that is sold.

If their business model cannot handle this, that’s not, and will never be, my problem. It’s their business, they need to make it work, not me.

@aurynn don't cry about paywalls and subscription nags when you see them, they're a consequence of your actions that you shrugged off as not your problem and encouraged people who can't be bothered about ads to use ABs :P
@brawaru I don’t, generally, complain about paywalls.

@brawaru @aurynn that's a completely different argument than you're making above.

Generally I will always pay for an ad-free version if possible, but that's also something I'm fortunate enough to afford. And if it's ad-free, I'm paying for privacy and expect it.

@brawaru
I'm starting to feel bad about depriving Google of their meagre income.

How else are they going to earn money by *freely* giving away the content created by journalists?

- oh I forgot, they earn billions by monetising the value of a deep and comprehensive analysis of your online behaviours that you have *freely* shared with them.

@aurynn

@brawaru @aurynn Ad networks are a prime source of malware. Ad’s are made of code and the ad companies rarely scan the code for viruses.

A lot of tech people run ad blockers for security.

@brawaru @aurynn I'm gonna be honest, I don't think that these companies are stressing about their own ethical side of the interaction.

I don't think they worry about the trackers watching your browsing history and profiling you or the headlines you realize are deceptive after you've already clicked a link. But you are worried that you're not watching enough ads for them?

@warrioroflatte @brawaru @aurynn I mean, he has one specific website and company in mind.
In any case, it's also kind of shitty when adblock lists literally break the website on a dev server

@warrioroflatte I don't think these companies have any choice. Modrinth tried several ethical and privacy friendly networks and 1) they're blocked by ad blockers 2) they don't pay s--t. So they were forced to make their own ad network (Adrinth), that doesn't track anything but views, solely to sustain themselves until subscriptions come in. Also guess what? Someone specifically targeted them and PRed to ad block lists to the point of breaking the site πŸ‘

@aurynn

I tend to avoid sites that blast you with ads or keep AB enabled if I literally have to us them and there's no alternatives, but I'm fine with whitelisting sites like Duolingo where ads are pretty non-intrusive (and at times funny). For some sites I'd also buy subscriptions, but then, well, things happened, so it's not an option for now. I also don't skip sponsors on YT for creators I like, instead just setting speed to Γ—2-4. You don't die from seeing a few ads :P

@warrioroflatte @aurynn