Red Hat is happy to take your code and distribute it, first with minimal changes, and perhaps with more changes over time.
But if you do it, you are a leech.
Love that the Brodie here goes into gatekeeping what is considered a contribution:
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-commitment-open-source-response-gitcentosorg-changes
@Migueldeicaza in what way is it akin to Reddit? #Centos Stream is the upstream where #RHEL comes from. Most packages in RHEL are verbatim Centos content and a RHEL release can be traced to a tag or a commit in Centos.
Also #RedHat continues paying developers that contribute directly to upstream projects like #Gnome, #GTK, the #Linux #kernel... In what way is any of that akin to Reddit?
Did you read _more_ than the screenshot? You're taking it out of context and misrepresentating both what Mike said and what Red Hat does.
Yet, you are taking it out of the context of the rest of the post, and adding words like "leech" β which isn't even there as a reasonable paraphrase of the words you did choose to focus on.
@Migueldeicaza @mattdm @itorres It's pretty clear that the freedoms and collective advantages FLOSS grants are at some odds to profit generation: this *is*, indeed, a threat to RH's business model.
Once it becomes "good enough" that support is no longer deemed universally necessary, the funding model flounders since everyone else also wants to maximize their (short-term) profits.
We need different funding models.
@larsmb @Migueldeicaza @itorres
I agree about different funding models. But, I want to stress β Red Hat has not made (and I do not expect it to make) any changes relevant to that. All changes are made available to everyone, and upstreamed directly if possible.
@mattdm @Migueldeicaza @itorres A big part of the GPL is the right to redistribute (and use, for any purpose, the modified or unmodified source code).
So you're saying RH is not adding any restrictions or negative consequences to that?
(I get the part about "you're not allowed to redistribute the signed binaries". I think that part is fair enough.)
@larsmb @Migueldeicaza @itorres
I think this is well-covered elsewhere. I can find you some links if you like.
@larsmb @Migueldeicaza @mattdm @itorres
I found the distinction in economics between Public Goods and other types of goods helpful in understanding all this. It seems like FOSS is fundamentally at odds with normal market approaches, and RedHat is trying to get around that. (https://youtu.be/hA2z-X31IvI?list=PL-uRhZ_p-BM4XnKSe3BJa23-XKJs_k4KY)
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