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Lemmy.ml is blocking all requests from /kbin Instances

I discovered yesterday evening that Lemmy.ml is blocking all inbound ActivityPub requests from /kbin instances. Specifically, a 403 'access denied' is returned when the user agent contains "kbinBot" anywhere in the string. This has been causing a cascade of failures with federation for many server owners, flooding the message... #lemmy #federation #lemmyml #kbinbot #kbinMeta

https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/104218

Lemmy.ml is blocking all requests from /kbin Instances - /kbin meta - kbin.social

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phi1997 Jun 27, 2023

If they don't want us to communicate with the users of their server, they should be defederated. Sucks for the users, but they can hop to another server whose admins don't break communication inelegantly and ghost admins who want to know what's going on.

If it's just a bug, then obviously we should wait for it to be fixed, but if they're not even saying they'll look into it, I don't have much hope.

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Eisenhowever Jun 27, 2023

Doesnt surprise me, the developers of lemmy (which are owners of .ml) have an agenda. They are into censoring on ukraine news, and other stuff. I dont get why people are choosing lemmy over kbin when they are equally bad looking

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TheRoarer Jun 27, 2023

Wait why is kbin bad looking?

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TwilightVulpine Jun 27, 2023

It looks better than reddit.

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slicedcheesegremlin Jun 27, 2023

yeah, kbin is probably the nicest looking reddit alternative i've seen. Really sleek design without leaning into the overly overly mobile-focused watered down New Reddit bs, while also not nearly as hideous as old reddit.

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mochi Jun 27, 2023

I do wish kbin looked a bit better on mobile, though. I have larger font on my iPhone and instead of wrapping, the text just goes off the screen and can't be viewed.

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UrbenLegend Jun 27, 2023

Eh? What are you talking about? There's literally a bunch of Russia and Ukraine news at https://lemmy.ml/c/worldnews. This rumor mill needs to stop. People started some bad rumors about Lemmy devs just because of their political association and now its blown up into full lies.

I use both Lemmy and Kbin, but I prefer Lemmy for a bunch of different reasons:

Interface is cleaner and more performant.

Getting to your list of subscribed magazines in kbin is a pain in the ass. Why is it buried in Settings?

Kbin votes are public. This is just bad for privacy. It's one thing to say that votes are public due to federation, and whole other thing to blatantly show it in the UI. There's a reason why voting at a government level is kept secret, just sayin'.

Also why the hell are they called magazines? None of the names in kbin map to existing conventions. "Threads" are posts. "Magazines" are communities or groups. I never get used to it because it isn't natural to call these things the way kbin calls them.

Allegations against Rudy Giuliani and Russell Brand show sexual abuse is a selling point for MAGA - Lemmy

“Sometimes, it’s who you most suspect.” That’s what a friend of mine texted to a group chat after the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4 Dispatches released a disturbing investigative report documenting rape and other sexual allegations against British comedian Russell Brand. The actor denies the allegations, but unsurprisingly, most of the public does not seem to believe his denials. In part, it’s because the evidence against Brand is overwhelming: five separate accusers, digital documentation, and a litany of witnesses ready to corroborate how Brand’s behavior was an “open secret in radio and TV production.” In part, it’s because being a skeeze was always central to Brand’s persona. And in part, it’s because there have been comments over the years, from celebrities like Katy Perry and Kristen Bell, about Brand’s predatory behavior. The Onion, as they often do, said it best, with the headline, “Nation Could Have Sworn Russell Brand Was Already Convicted Sex Offender.” And yet, like clockwork, the MAGA masses are rallying to Brand’s side, treating these allegations like they are evidence that the “deep state” is trying to take Brand out for some vague reason. As Joy Saha documented at Salon, the usual suspects — Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro, and Jordan Peterson — defended Brand this week and floated conspiracy theories to distract from the serious allegations. Elon Musk, of course, got involved, writing on the platform he rebranded X, “They don’t like competition.” Greg Gutfeld elevated the conspiracy theory to Fox News. History shows the quickest way to be a hero to the MAGA crowd is to be credibly accused of rape, ideally by a large number of women. Do any of these conspiracy theorists believe their own B.S.? I’m skeptical that any of these men actually mean a single word they say. They are, after all, arguing that Brand is such an all-powerful threat to the mysterious “They” that “They” organized a conspiracy of dozens of people — reporters, editors, fact-checkers, witnesses, and accusers — for the purpose of smearing an innocent man with allegations such as he “forced his penis down her throat” so hard she had to punch him to escape. That’s a lot of work for the mighty “They” to take out one dude. Keeping that many conspirators quiet is nearly impossible. You’d think “They” would have simpler methods of dealing with people “They” want to get rid of. Nah, the more likely explanation is that Brand’s defenders believe he did it. They’re just angry that anyone would deny a man his patriarchy-given right to rape as many high school girls as he pleases. After all, this is the same crowd that supports Donald Trump, a man whose history of sexual assault has been put beyond dispute both in a court of law and by his own infamous tape bragging about how he likes to “grab them by the pussy.” History shows the quickest way to be a hero to the MAGA crowd is to be credibly accused of rape, ideally by a large number of women. We see this in the same rally-round-the-pig response MAGA had to Andrew Tate, a man whose total worthlessness as a human being was evident long before he was arrested for rape and human trafficking in Romania. Tate, an “influencer” who preyed on school kids too young to know better, wasn’t exactly coy about his misogyny or violent impulses before his arrest. He openly bragged about hitting women and trapping them in the house and even offered to teach his followers how to get into sex trafficking. Despite — or really because — of all this, the MAGA reaction to Tate’s arrest was to treat the guy like a hero. Tucker Carlson interviewed him for Twitter and Elon Musk heavily hyped the video. Needless to say, it wasn’t a hard-hitting interview exploring the evils of sexual violence. It was a softball meant to portray Tate, who is accused of choking women so hard he broke blood vessels in their faces, as the real victim. One could argue, I suppose, that this stampede of support for the worst possible men isn’t meant as a celebration of rape per se. There’s always the “just trolling” defense. In this case, the argument would be that it’s just that MAGA types just really love to “trigger” the feminists. Throwing a pity party for an accused rapist is a virtual form of ponytail-pulling, in this rendering. But even if that were true, it’s ultimately a distinction without difference. Once you’re throwing ticker tape parades for sexual predators, it really stops mattering if it’s just out of anti-feminist spite. The new allegations against Rudy Giuliani are a grotesque reminder that, for much of MAGA, Trump’s appeal was due in large part to the perception that he created an atmosphere where open predation towards women was acceptable. Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide who has since spoken out about the coup plotting she witnessed under Trump, has a new book out. In it, she accuses Giuliani of groping her on January 6, 2021, seemingly because he was excited by the unspooling Capitol insurrection. To add insult to injury, she describes John Eastman, another coup plotter, as flashing a “leering grin” while Giuliani manhandled her. Giuliani, for his part, is denying the allegations, and his denials are being greeted with a great deal of scoffing. After all, he’s currently tied up in litigation with a former aide accusing him of bullying her into unwanted sexual intercourse. His accuser, Noelle Dunphy, has produced grotesque receipts, including a tape of Giuliani declaring, “Come here, big tits. Your tits belong to me.” Even without the Dunphy lawsuit, Hutchinson’s claims were believable simply because she was working under Donald Trump. We’ve all heard the “Access Hollywood” tape in which Trump brags, at length, about how he enjoys sexually assaulting women. It makes perfect sense that he would attract compatriots who craved an environment where men can just grope whatever woman they wished. The least surprising thing in the world is if these men saw young and pretty aides like Hutchinson as party favors Trump was offering up to these co-conspirators. There’s a tendency in the mainstream press to talk about rape and sexual abuse as something “everybody” disapproves of. When a credibly accused assailant gets a surge of support, the assumption is these folks believe the accused is innocent. When it’s impossible to imagine they believe that — no one can think Trump is innocent — then the assumption is that the sexual predation is a flaw that supporters are reluctantly accepting because they like other traits of the accused. But there is a third possibility, one that this evidence shows is the likeliest one: sexual abuse as a vice signal. Being seen as a sexual abuser makes a person more popular with some on the right, especially the extremely online MAGA set. It’s a subculture of people who valorize bullying and hate women, especially women who they think are uppity. Sexual violence has been a primary outlet for that urge to humiliate women and put them “in their place.” This isn’t about a sincere belief that every accused rapist is a victim of a “deep state” conspiracy. It’s just that MAGA’s knee-jerk urge when they hear these allegations of sexual violence is to side with the perpetrator.

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EnglishMobster Jun 27, 2023

I wouldn't really call it "rumors" when you can go directly to the horse's mouth:

https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230626055233/https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/cqgztr/fuck_the_white_supremacist_reddit_admins_want_me/

Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.

Posting this in light of a recent one week Reddit ban I earned for shitting on US police, as I'm sure many of us have gotten in recent weeks.

So I've spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it's pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we'd have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.

Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are, so we should never abandon Reddit entirely, but it's been clear to all of us from day one, that communities like this stand on unsteady ground, and could be banned or quarantined at any moment by the white supremacist Reddit admins. This would be both a backup and a potentially better alternative. Moderation abilities are there, as well as a slur filter.

Raddle isn't an option obviously since it's run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

I wanted to ask ppl here if they'd like me to host an instance, and mod all the current mods here.

My concern is with this line: Obviously as communists, we agitate where the people are. I'm pretty left-leaning myself (I draw the line at authoritarianism though), but they're very open about using their platform to push an agenda.

That post was made by the founder of Lemmy and the instance they mention at the end where they mod all the mods of /r/communism became Lemmygrad (because lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad are the same people - the ".ml" in "lemmy.ml" even stands for "Marxist-Leninist").

With Lemmy.ml as the "main" instance, you're exposing all these posts to an admin team who has openly said "we are agitating for our views wherever the people go, and we have ultimate control over all content." They have already removed posts critical of China as being "orientalist" (which shows a severe lack of understanding of what "orientalism" even is - it's not "anything that criticizes our Dear Leader"). I can't trust that any community hosted on lemmy.ml is free of bias.

It isn't "rumors" when you can clearly go and back it up with a source.

(FWIW - I don't mind Lemmy as a platform. My Lemmy account is actually from 2020, before I realized what they truly were. The maintainers have done a good job of keeping politics out of the software, and the concept of only using "ethical" things is a myth when your computer has rare earth elements in it. As far as instances go, Lemmy.world seems fantastic and has grown to be far larger than the tankie instances. But Kbin is more fully-featured and has a lot more long-term potential, even though it's lacking in the short-term.)

Fuck the white supremacist Reddit admins, want me to set up a self hosted one for /r/communism?

Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, [recorder of left audiobooks](https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/audiobooks.md), and [megathread...

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ernest Jun 27, 2023

It's possible that this is a consequence of the latest Lemmy update, in which a lot has changed. I have noted that kbin has some issues with request signature in communication with certain instances. I will try to check it tomorrow first thing in the morning.

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svovl Jun 27, 2023

Sorry to go off topic here, but it seems that no messages are coming in and out from kbin.social.

See, e.g., https://kbin.dk/m/[email protected]/t/3054/Lemmy-ml-is-blocking-all-requests-from-kbin-Instances and https://kbin.melroy.org/m/[email protected]/t/2560/Lemmy-ml-is-blocking-all-requests-from-kbin-Instances

Lemmy.ml is blocking all requests from /kbin Instances - kbinMeta - kbin.dk

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Upvotes_Kills_Birds Jun 27, 2023

Wow, thank you for the quick communication. Amazing aptitude. Almost nowhere else do you find a lead dev in the comment trenches letting us know what's happening, I'm kinda baffled.

we love ernest!

I've noticed we are also not federating with lemmy.wtf for some reason, maybe it's something related. They are connected well with other lemmy instances but kbin can't get a hold of them despite being on their list of linked instances