Remember, if someone is speaking English to you with an accent, they are probably, by default, smarter than you because they speak two languages. Don't patronize them.
@Miriamm Why not, I'm Italian :-)
@Miriamm my daughter speaks perfect English, and German. And Spanish. And French. And Luxembourgish (yes, it’s a language) and makes me look like an idiot, having said that my own late mother found it difficult to understand my spoken English and we were both born in Manchester! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
@jaycee wow thts incredible and here's us with only one! Haha I'm from Ireland and I don't understand half the Irish either
@Miriamm my late mother, like me now, was stone deaf (Irish descent too!) my best mate called me mumbling man, he wasn’t known for his subtlety! So she had no bloody chance, indeed my wife of 50 years is struggling these days and she can hear a pin drop 4 doors down! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
@Miriamm @jaycee When I studied in Ireland for a year, one of my Irish housemates told me how the Americans complimented him on his English, being from Ireland and everything, when he worked there over summer.
@Giliell @Miriamm @jaycee I got complimented on my Portuguese at Brazil (I'm from Portugal)

@ritawho

How do you say "gringo" in Portuguese? πŸ˜€
@Giliell @Miriamm @jaycee

@Homebrewandhacking @ritawho @Giliell @Miriamm Bush asked if the French had a word for entrepreneurs! πŸ˜‚
@Homebrewandhacking @Giliell @Miriamm @jaycee that's a Brazilian thing, we usually say Americans

@ritawho

Oh, because "your Portuguese is excellent (for a gringo)" is what I am pretty sure they meant. πŸ˜‰

@Giliell @Miriamm @jaycee

@ritawho @Homebrewandhacking @Giliell @Miriamm my English is poor, and I’m born and bred Manchester! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

@jaycee

Well, I'll have to take your word for it. I'm a descriptivist rather than a prescriptivist myself and I feel that where expression and communication of meaning are clear, that such things are inherently valid. It's all about your target audience. πŸ˜€

@ritawho @Giliell @Miriamm

@jaycee @Miriamm I had a friend at university who was from Luxembourg, which is how I found out that Luxembourgish is a language! She spoke about 5 languages fluently.

@Miriamm Diolch, merci, meur ras, danke, go raibh maith agat, grazie, obrigada, dginkwie, gracias, spasibo, tac, shukron, ohias.

Thanks for posting this. πŸ˜‰

@Miriamm I only speak English. I am from Somerset and I am proud of my accent. When I am in Ireland many people struggle to understand me.
@Miriamm Anybody who learns English not as their native tongue has my undying respect. I’ve studied Russian, Chinese, and Welsh, and they all have so few exceptions to rules that it’s worth remembering them. English is a mash-up of some many languages that the β€œrules” have so many exceptions as to be useless. Every time some American says immigrants should learn English, I want to bop them on the nose, especially as they have likely never studied another language!
@Miriamm every time I’m out with my neighbors they keep apologizing for their poor English, I’m continuously reminding them I’m the idiot who can’t learn more than just English.

@Miriamm

Speaking stylistically near-perfect English, but with the thickest of German accents: that's me! The accent is part of me and it remains, after decades of living & teaching in England. Some subconscious bridge to my origins, perhaps?

In earlier generations, this happened a lot among emigrants from Nazi Germany and Austria. Ernst Gombrich, Hans Keller. Listen:

Keller:
https://youtu.be/7QVxfe2qItQ

Gombrich:
https://youtu.be/ea3j-kTnfeU

#accents #emigrants #HansKeller #ErnstGombrich

Keller on FurtwΓ€ngler Part 1

YouTube
@Miriamm πŸ† But, but they steal jobs no one wants! πŸ€‘β€™s…πŸ”₯ (Go worship your guns.) πŸ”₯
@Miriamm I work with a lot of people who aren't native English speakers and as someone who is I always feel guilty correcting their spelling or grammar in the client reports they write during the QC process. I am in awe of what they can do on a day to day basis.
@Miriamm intelligence for speech is different than inventions.

@Miriamm

This.

Also, you're probably an American. Despite having an excellent education in the States, my French is limited to "there is an elephant in the courtyard."

@Miriamm or just be kind to everyone regardless.
@Miriamm β€œI admire a man with an accent- it means he speaks two languages”.
Mark Twain
@Miriamm that'd be contradicted by all the irish, scottish, jordies, etc I know who definitely have accents but who definitely don't speak more than one language lol. everyone has an accent. Its not indicative of multilingualism
@Miriamm learning a new language is not about smartness
@Miriamm And as a professor who survived the Holocaust taught on the first day of class: if you find my verds hard to ΓΌnderstand, remember that I’m not ze von with the accent but you are.
@Miriamm @arush When I was a little kid I remember my father telling me pretty much the same thing and I never forgot it.
@Miriamm Absolutely correct. However, especially for customer service staff, many seem unable or unwilling to speak more slowly and with more volume when told the customer has a hearing problem. It is not just the accent, the voice pitch counts, too.
@Miriamm @lisamelton trust me I'm impressed with Japanese peeps talking English I couldn't do the reverse
@Miriamm
what if it's an American accent?
@vfrmedia

@Miriamm

Although if you are in Dublin, they may just be from Cork - or Belfast.

I totally agree with your point, but there's a 5-yr old lives in me and she gets out sometimes.

@Miriamm lol anglos think speaking two languages is impressive

-most of the world

@Miriamm
what if they're speaking in an English accent?
@Miriamm I used to have an unconscious bias against heavy accents (being multilingual myself, but have little-to-no Dutch accent when I speak English). I didn't realise it until I moved to here, and it took me a while to really lose that toxic part of myself.

@Miriamm This happens a whole lot more in French, even from people who are bi or tri-lingual and should know better.

The amount of times I've got lectures about using the wrong sex for a word, then started a full out war between a group of French people because none of them have even the remotest idea of what sex the word actually is, could fill a couple volumes of encyclopædias.

Mis-pronounce a word and be ready to receive an apocalyptic firestorm.

Use the subjonctif and watch chaos unfurl

@Miriamm -=At least=- two languages. And English is such a linguistic dog's breakfast...
@Miriamm Same goes for people speaking Spanish, Italian or French with an English accent, right?
@Miriamm you are exactly right! I took four years of French in high school and forgot all of it. I took Spanish in college and never became anywhere near fluent. I have to turn on subtitles when I'm watching British dramas. I really admire people who are bi or multi lingual!
@Miriamm @pearlbear There are lot of people in England who have English as their first language and don’t sound typically β€œBritish”. There are also those who are British and their families have been here for centuries and English is their second language. Welsh, Scots Gaelic to name two. Assumptions about people because of the way they speak English are just a demonstration of ignorance.
@cyberspice @Miriamm I boosted this from my US perspective, where monolingual USians often assume that people who speak with foreign accents are dumb.
@pearlbear @Miriamm Right now I’m in a Chinese restaurant in Spain with a Polish family to the left of me and Scandinavian group to the right English is used as the universal language. The Chinese staff here can speak about five languages though. I always try and speak Spanish as I am embarrassed at how bad the Brits are at languages generally.