Female-presenting nipplesPeople think ‘cis’ is a slur because that's how they think about and use ‘trans‘, as a slur.
If you can look at what's going on in this rapidly nazifying world and the thing you're taking issue with is my toot, not the fucking nascent genocides, feel free to fuck right off
When you're a trans woman you can't even say the *mildest* shit without pushback. No matter how small you make yourself, someone's telling you 'no, be smaller' while casually waving the cudgel to make clear what happens if you don't
Fuck that shit. No more. I'm done.
Danielle Navarro@FuchsiaShock yep. I posted about the latest thing too and oh my the sheer number people on here who found a way to tell me off for being angry in a way they personally didn’t like, rather than… you know, focusing on the actual problem… is really quite impressive
Iza Running AgainYup. It's very much like how 20 years ago there were straight people complaining about being called straight. They'd say things like, "I'm not straight, I'm normal! “
Hugh Young-Bish38 years ago when we were campaigning for homosexual law reform, I heard heterosexuals objecting to "heterosexual".
Denial of sexual orientation then, denial of gender identity now.
Cat! has moved@FuchsiaShock They're all like "how dare you say I'm different to trans women when actually I'm *different* to trans women".
Not one thing they say makes any sense whatsoever.
Dobviews@FuchsiaShock Exactly!
Leo Chashnikov@FuchsiaShock really reminds me of a video where interviewer asked random guys on the street "are you heterosexual", and in most of cases response was an indignant shout like "no, i'm a normal man!"
Essjay (she / her) 🏳️🌈
Lisa@FuchsiaShock i wish it have peopel understand that some trans peopel use cis as a sler to so its not just a cis peopel who may use this as a sler
@FuchsiaShock I've seen it go both ways but I don't see the problem with a word, as it stands. It's the people who miss use the word and beat up with it.
@serrebi The problem with saying it goes both ways is that one way is significantly more harmful than the other. Cis people villainizing trans people can lead to restrictive laws, abuse, violence ... trans people speaking negatively of cis people can, at most, upset some cis person on the internet.
Not that comparing oppressions is ideal, but it is similar to us blind folks calling sighted people sighties, sightlings, or some other word du jour. Most of the time, that is done either jokingly, or when complaining about actual ableism against us, such as being talked to like a child, grabbed without permission, mocked, etc.
Can it get a little mean-spirited, sometimes? Sure. But it is our way of coping with actual discrimination. Pain is not always pretty; sometimes it is angry.
And far, far fewer people are actually committing violence against, or killing, blind people. Far fewer are not merely not acknowledging we exist, but openly, hatefully saying we should not. That's the trouble with comparing these things. But hopefully it makes the contrast clearer.
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@admin @FuchsiaShock I realize that, but the situation I can think of from my own life that person who used the word wasn’t fighting oppression when they used it. I’m not a fan of bullying tactics.
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Over on the birdsite, I once saw someone saying that cis is definitely a slur because it's only ever used to describe people and the only reason anyone would ever need to describe someone is in order to demean them.
Congratulations on almost mastering adjectives. Next week we'll try pronouns.
Except, of course, they don't believe in those either.
@clacksee literally just did the picard facepalm
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AI8W@FuchsiaShock That's a possibility, too.
I can't pretend to know what's in the minds of other cisgendered people, but I can say that, for my part, I treat others the way they treat me.
People reap what they sow, with me. If they treat me like they want me to treat them we'll get along fine, or not, depending.
I can't pretend to know what's in the minds of other cisgendered people, but I can say that, for my part, I treat others the way they treat me.
People reap what they sow, with me. If they treat me like they want me to treat them we'll get along fine, or not, depending.
Maura Hubbell@FuchsiaShock Some heterosexuals used to complain about “heterosexual”. Really. Weenies crave the sanctification of being called normal.
I hadn't thought of that. Thanks
chicating@FuchsiaShock *Anything* could be a slur if you say it with shit in your heart. I'd rather someone slug me than say I'm "special" now, but the word itself isn't rude by its nature.
@chicating Well yeah, you can pour an acidic tone on any word at all.
@FuchsiaShock One way or another, intention counts.
Or lack of intention, as with "thoughts and prayers" which I used to use on things from time to time, but I wouldn't now. Because it would feel that I wrote that I was pretending to care. You know?
Or lack of intention, as with "thoughts and prayers" which I used to use on things from time to time, but I wouldn't now. Because it would feel that I wrote that I was pretending to care. You know?
@FuchsiaShock As a cis person(though disabled, so in my own way coming back different from the factory) I'm not sure why it's important to other cis people to be the default. I'm sure it would confer advantages, but it's not a compliment! If the worst thing you have to accept is "There are more variations in gender ID and presentation than you previously imagined(true) than you're *lucky*(At least in this one instance)