If you are a white leftist and you talk “both parties are the same they are both capitalist” you will loose most of your black audience. I think it ought to be obvious that this isn’t because blackfolks love Democrats (in most cases, there is always someone being simple in any group) —no. it’s because the difference between the parties is material and obvious and these are unstable times.

When I hear such talk I wonder if the speaker is working on voter suppression.

@futurebird yeah I agree, this framing really overlooks the complexity of life in America. Both parties are the same in that they're both part of a capitalist system but they do have a lot of material differences. I think it's much more important to emphasize the limits of voting and the different impacts at different levels (city/state/federal).

The change we need will not come from the voting now but reforms won through voting can have a huge impact on people's lives.

@futurebird I feel like this is similar to class reductionism, lots of white leftists are trying to distill their beliefs down to something simple and catchy you can spread easily online but this also misses a LOT of important information that you usually don't have a chance to expand on because you're just firing catch phrases off onto the internet.