Mastodawn

Do you think that Meta is legally obligated to protect your data?

yes

50.7%

no

49.3%

Poll ended at Jun 21, 2023 at 4:43am.

Do you think meta is able to show you ads even though you are on another instance?

yes

45.2%

no

54.8%

Poll ended at Jun 21, 2023 at 4:45am.

Do you think that there is an effective way to mitigate the threat of Meta instead of blocking it?

yes

34.5%

no

65.5%

Poll ended at Jun 21, 2023 at 4:43am.

Are you concerned that Meta's entry may result in Mastodon losing its identity?

yes

62.6%

no

37.4%

Poll ended at Jun 21, 2023 at 4:43am.

Do you think Meta's presence on Mastodon might attract more users to smaller instances?

yes

42.8%

no

57.2%

Poll ended at Jun 21, 2023 at 4:43am.

Do you think that Metas's entry could potentially lead to a monopolization of decentralized social networks?

yes

71.8%

no

28.2%

Poll ended at Jun 21, 2023 at 4:43am.

Thank you for you time.

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@m Here we see the problem with polls - I wanted to cite specific reasons, disclaimers, or additions for pretty much every one of these. :/

@m No, but only because we won't give them a chance to pull any shit.

@m No, but only because we won't give them a chance to pull any shit.

radioactivestardust Jun 20, 2023

@m Why Mastodon and not Fediverse?

@m I'm sure they'll try. Might even manage it, now and then, at least until people get wise and just block them.

Rairii Jun 20, 2023

@m i voted yes here because it's technically possible depending on how they implement that

like if ads are just normal posts forced into people feeds on their own client

those ads could get boosted onto remote timelines

Daniel Bohrer Jun 20, 2023

@Rairii @m I could also imagine that they insert ads on the profiles of their users. Or if someone follows users on their servers, they could probably send ad posts along with the posts of the followed users. (maybe even under the name of their users? I guess? I'm not sure how Fedi works exactly on a technical level)

Linebyline→mastoart.social Jun 22, 2023

@daniel_bohrer @Rairii @m Sounds plausible to me.

@m They should be, but no, not in any way that really matters.

Nick Kelly Jun 20, 2023

@m Just wanted to chime in that this question could probably be worded a little different.
I can't tell if we mean
"Do I think they are?" or
"Do I think they should be" or
"Do I think they'll respect it whether they are or are not?"

Because no (depending on the specifics or data and what we mean by 'protect'), yes, and no

Simon Brooke Jun 20, 2023

@m I don't think it CURRENTLY IS, in most jurisdictions, to the degree that we would like. I do think that it COULD BE, with appropriate legislation; and I think the EU, at least, would be prepared to enact that legislation, given enough pressure from citizens.

I'd like to see a 'No, but it could be' option on that poll!

Digital Mark λ ☕️ 🕹 👽Jun 20, 2023

@m Legally obligated, yes. Will they comply with legal requirements? Certainly not, they never have so far.

Kyaa, free-use scratching toy Jun 20, 2023

@m Are they technically legally obligated? Yes.

Have they demonstrated repeatedly that they don't care about such laws? Also yes.

Do they have their lawyers working on finding new loopholes and writing defenses and fine print to allow them to ignore the laws with minimal risk again? Most likely also yes.

alternative_be✅🖖🏻Jun 20, 2023

@m That would depend on which country you live in. But I wouldn’t trust them to do so.

kolkrabe Jun 21, 2023

@m
Are they obligated? Yes.
Will they do it? No.

@m Do we even have proper account migration? So far as I can tell, the most we have is account redirection, which isn't nearly as big a deal.

Eris Renée Jun 20, 2023

@m it would only prevent them from migrating to an instance that blocks meta (if meta implements this feature, which I doubt they would)

Users could still migrate to any instances that don’t block meta. And they could, of course, simply create a new account without the redirect/follower migration that migration comes with.

Pusher Of Pixels (old account)Jun 20, 2023

@m I mean don't we *want* FB users to migrate *away* from FB? to i.e. de-centralize? That's a 'good' thing.

clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛Jun 21, 2023

@pixelpusher220 @m People? Yes. Meta? No.

Why Not Zoidberg? 🦑Jun 21, 2023

@m as far as I understand it the Meta Twitter clone we are talking about will require an Instagram account to use, so migration will probably be a no-go anyway.

@m Eh, maybe. We'll see how it goes - but if they behave poorly enough, then quite possibly.