This happened quickly…Lemmy is now the second biggest platform next to mastodon!?!

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@maegul @fediverse @fediversenews Wow, that's some rapid growth! 🚀 Looks like the #Fediverse is on fire. 🔥 Just shows how much we all crave more control over our digital lives. Kudos to @dessalines and @nutomic and the whole Lemmy team, from underdogs to top dogs in no time! 🐕 #Decentralization #OnlineAutonomy @fediverse @fediversenews
Hope this also feeds the growth of Mastodon as well. We need good FOSS alternatives to these corporate controlled social networks.
F f f f fight the power.
I might try Mastodon now that I found and fell in love with Lemmy, are there any good clients for Android?
I’m on iOS so I can’t say 100% but ivory is really well designed, I’m pretty sure that’s what the Apollo dev said he likes to use so I tried it and it’s good. Personally I’ve been using elk as a web app and it’s been my favourite so far. I don’t think there’s an app for it at the moment, just a web app, but I could be wrong
I’d also recommend Ice Cubes on iOS, visually pleasing and pretty functional. And elk you can install as a half app thing where you click install from the url bar
@kratoz29 @frozengriever
It's funny to read this from Mastodon. Activity Pub / The Fediverse is weird.
I'm actually just using my browser (Brave) and it's been a fine experience so far.
@kratoz29
Fedilab, it can do multi-account & with some other Fedi branches too e.g Friendica & Pixelfed. Onboard translator
@frozengriever
Personally I like Tusky.
I really like Fedilab. It's free on FDroid!
I'm feeling out of place because I'm the only one running Trunks. It's pretty much doing what I need but I'm a pretty simple drunk.
I really like Fedilab. It's free on FDroid!
Awesome! There's a pretty good dispersion as well.
Why is kbin at the bottom of the list when it’s number is larger than Lemmy?

@Cabrilo

The first column is MAU, monthly active users. The second column is total users. When I say second biggest I’m going by total users. Partly because there are inconsistencies between platforms, AFAIU, as to what “active” means, where lemmy, for instance, is stricter than others, I think, and kbin, so I’ve heard, might have a problem with how the number is reported.

Nonetheless, it’s an important metric too.

Love to see the fediverse grow. We don't deserve these devs!
Some small instances are seeing sudden increases in numbers of registered users (4k to 5k new users) but not an equivalent growth in activity, my guess is someone is creating accounts on instances without captcha enabled for account registration. Most of the top 10 fastest growing instances shown here fit that criteria.
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@Odo Interesting. Lemmy is somewhat strict in its definition of "active user". You must post to be "active", so all lurkers aren't counted.

I'm not even sure commenting counts toward being "active", though I'd guess it does.

So user growth without growth in "active users", especially on smaller servers, is plausible.

I guess that's possible. The instances I mentioned look like this:

https://fedidb.org/network/instance/parapheum.com

2 posts, 1 comment overall.

It had 10 users two days ago and 4.6k today, not a single one of them seems to have posted or commented.

@Odo

So going to that instance, and going to its list of federated communities (https://parapheum.com/communities/listing_type/All/page/1) shows a few sizeable ones. Also note the instance's description (see https://parapheum.com/) which is basically to distribute the server load without any commitment to any particular kind of community.

So, could be full of lurkers, or parallel accounts created to avoid server overload that will be soon dropped. So probably some bloat in these numbers, as there are for other platforms too

Communities - Parapheum

@Odo

This one is probably more illustrative: https://lemmy.podycust.co.uk/

Looking at their numbers on their home page, it looks like people might be moving off of the instance, but again, people have definitely subscribed to various communites there and might just be lurking.

Podycust - A general-purpose instance. Everyone is welcome to join and chat etc

@Odo So, the lemmy numbers are probably bloated by spam accounts: see eg https://lemmy.world/post/293545

I wonder if some instances are just for spam?

[Solved] Temporarily closed signups because of spam signups - Lemmy.world

So some spam signups just happened (all [email protected] [[email protected]] format e-mail) This caused bounced mail to increase, causing Mailgun to block our domain to prevent it getting blacklisted. So: - Mail temporarily doesn’t work - I closed signups for now - I will ban the spam accounts - I will check how to prevent (maybe approval required again?) Stay tuned. Edit: so apparently there is a captcha option which I now enabled. Let’s see if this prevents spam. Registrations open again. Edit2 : Hmm Mailgun isn’t that fast in unblocking the domain. Closing signups again because validation mails aren’t sent Edit 3: I convinced Mailgun to lift the block. Signups open again.

Here's an insightful comment I ran into, it looks like lemmy.podycust.co.uk / parapheum users don't seem to be making much interactions with other instances.
Lemmy's total users continues to soar from 240k yesterday to 360k today! Basically quadrupling in the past 4 days - Lemmy.world

Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=7 [https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=7]

@Odo Yep ... little Lemmy has grown up fast it seems. As commented here (https://lemmy.world/comment/379209) ... this is a sign of success and actual growth. Unfortunately, admins and devs will need to adapt!
Lemmy's total users continues to soar from 240k yesterday to 360k today! Basically quadrupling in the past 4 days - Lemmy.world

Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=7 [https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=7]

So it excludes commenters? Guess I'm not an active user then

Not sure if I should just make a post for this, but I will ask here.

Is lemmy searchable? The main appeal of reddit for me was searchability. I see a lot of different instances with different domains names.Maybe there is a meta search or something? Adding reddit to the end of a search was very convenient.

@iSharted

Interesting question!

Lemmy has a search facility (a magnifying glass icon, generally in the top right, or perhaps behind a menu).

And it's not bad, though rough around the edges I'd say.

It will only be specific to what your instance "can see", which is all the activity in all the communities that all its users subscribe to.

So, no "meta search". But it's an interesting idea given how it was part of Reddit's value.

No reason why one couldn't be made on top of the network though

@iSharted
Iirc there was a thread i saw on kbin.social (can't remember if it was federated) but the current working consensus is there's a reasonable amount of success if you use Google then plus "join Lemmy" or "powered by kbin" because that boilerplate exists in most instances.
@maegul
I’m surprised Lemmy is currently above kbin to be honest. Only time will tell.

@AskThinkingTim A few days ago, kbin wasn't on that list at all :) It's a huge honor for me, and I'm glad people are enjoying being here. Currently, my main goal is to prepare the infrastructure and sort out the basics. The real fun will start when migratories between platforms are established. This is the fediverse, and a lot can change here ;)

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@ernest @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim

Yes! #kbin is super young and an upstart! Bright future!!

Are you teasing us here about migrations between platforms!?

Are you suggesting kbin<->lemmy migrations? Neither even have inter-instance migrations, right?

Or, kbin<>masto, microblogs platforms?!

@maegul Currently, it's a song of the future, but nothing limits us here. Only imagination ;) The only thing that matters to me is that if it does come to fruition, migrations should be possible in both directions.

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@ernest @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim

Completely agree on "both directions".

Currently #calckey offers full mastodon->calckey migrations, which is great.

Problem is people immediately think about going back calckey->mastodon, realise masdtodon doesn't offer the same, and hesitate to make the move. I've seen it. And, of course, it makes calckey's migration effort somewhat meaningless.

This is excellent. Thank you.

@ernest I never was really into the lemmy ecosystem until I found kbin. kudos.

@fediverse @fediversenews @maegul @AskThinkingTim

@AskThinkingTim I don't agree with the opinions of Lemmy devs, and I also find kbin more feature rich. But kbin is more in development than Lemmy (which has been for longer around) and started with more servers already. They basically managed decentralization better so far, and more servers started after the reddit migration.

That's not to say I am not subscribed to Kbin magazines, nor do I think that kbin has no chance. On the contrary. I just tried to explain the current situation 😁

@maegul

@maegul

Interesting that measured by #MAU, it's #kbin.

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@katzenberger @fediverse @fediversenews

Yea, except I’ve heard that there’s something up with their MAU numbers. Also definition of MAU can vary from platform to platform, so it’s a tricky metric.

@maegul

Sources for "something up"? I'd be interested to look into this.

@fediverse @fediversenews

@katzenberger

Don’t have the link handy. It was @ thisismissem @ hachyderm who said it, who is an active dev on fediverse things, it seems. I’m not close to them, so I haven’t at-ed them but you can contact them if you like.

Having recently given Lemmy (via the Jerboa app) & kbin (via just their web app -- since that's all there is) a test drive....

Lemmy is okay, but the app is extremely glitchy right now, throwing constant "unable to convert to JSON" errors. (I'm copying this comment before I hit submit, because I've already lost one lengthy comment due to those errors) FOLLOW-UP EDIT: I was never able to submit this comment via Jerboa, so here I am posting my comment on the website.

And Kbin is mostly just broken on phones.

The interface is completely confusing and cryptic. As far as I can tell, once you navigate off the home page, there are no links back?

And after several minutes of trying to subscribe to a "magazine", I finally figured out that the button is rendered off-screen, and you have to scroll to the right to find it.

The Sync for Reddit dev just announced that Sync for Lemmy is going to be developed. Sync for Reddit is one of the very high quality 3rd party reddit apps that will be shutdown later this month. So you've got that to look forward to.
Yep.. I'm a long time Sync for Reddit user. A good client can go a long way to making the fediverse good. I use Mastodon a lot more than Twitter now, thanks to Megalodon & more recently, Trunks.
Try migrating to a smaller instance if you're on a big one. The fediverse is not meant to be all in one giant instance anyways.
@maegul I hope either Pixelfed or PeerTube is next!
@EdanOsborne well if there’s going to be a positive for the fediverse in meta coming, instagram users checking out Pixelfed might be it?

It's amazing how fast it's growing. According to Lemmy Explorer, there are nearly 900 Instances, encompassing almost 13,000 communities. The forum software could stand some improvement, like having a way to group all your communities in one place, or figuring out whether an instance is federated. I really like the decentralized aspect of it. If a corporation tries to take over and ruin the largest instance (like what's happening to Reddit), then folks can migrate over the the second-most popular instance(s) while the biggest one withers and dies.

Also, Mastodon looks like a great replacement for Twitter.

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@NutWrench @maegul My favorite feature about the fediverse is how we can interact from across platforms! imagine commenting on Reddit from your Twitter account! They'd never let it happen!
Usualy being a very late adopter (buy stuff last, accept trends last, switch to norms late), I'm very happy I shutdown and deleted everything from my reddit account among the first, when spez bullcrap started, and went elsewhere, I joined squabbles, kbin and lemmy. But I'm here, I like the community, adoption and migration, and seeing the numbers tells me I'm not alone. Which is good.
Mastodon numbers are crazy when compared to the rest of the software on that list. Makes me wonder just how many are active users and/or how many search "Mastodon" after Musk bought twitter, made an account on mastodon.social and left it.
Makes me wonder just how many are active users


MAU means "monthly active users". As you can see, the ratio MAU/users is not higher for Mastodon than it is for Lemmy.

For me, Mastodon was not very user friendly. I still jump on it every now and then but I'm still not comfortable with it yet.
For me, Mastodon was actually quite nice once I started following hashtags.
Wait, you can do that? Is it possible on the app?

Tapping on a hashtag generally gives an option to follow it. It works just like following a person.

Here's the option on Megalodon (which I'd guess is similar to the official app)

And here it is in Trunks

Ooh, lovely. I didn't find rhis on official app but switches to Megalodon and it works like a charm. Thank you!
Out of curiosity, what were some things you found hard to get used to about Mastodon?

Finding interesting things to follow.

I'm not a twitter user, and also I thought that you'd find groups with whom you'd share, but instead I only found accounts telling me news I already knew. Roughly.

For me I'll check out my account from time to time for the FOSS stuff, but I could probably just hang out somewhere else (IDK where though :-)

Ah, I do believe being able to follow hashtags was a relatively recent feature, so recent in fact that the official mobile app doesn't support it yet. Perhaps that's what was missing when you tried it?