Mastodawn

privsecfoss Jun 19, 2023

IMHO XMPP / Jabber is the best Instant Messenger (IM) protocol

IMHO XMPP / Jabber is the best Instant Messenger (IM) protocol - Feddit.dk

It is battle tested, standardized, widely used, have open source servers and apps, end-to-end encryption (OMEMO), self-hostable and are low on ressources and more. I use it with family and friends. Conversations and blabber.im [http://blabber.im] on android and Gajim on Linux. There’s also apps for windows and Apple. Curious if anyone here use it and why, why not?

Show thread

floofloof Jun 19, 2023

My colleagues and I had set up a nice self-hosted XMPP server which everyone could use to chat in-house without any of the traffic leaving. We had it end-to-end encrypted and it was quick and easy. Then management (with the support of a few employees who like hype) switched us to Slack. It wasn't private, all our confidential messages went out to the internet, and many people didn't like it. Once management got frustrated wit it they switched us to Microsoft Teams. After using that for a year, I miss Slack. Teams is a bloated buggy mess with a UI designed to confuse, and it also has all the disadvantages of Slack.

A few of us have secretly switched to Matrix and Element. It's good. Don't tell management.

Show thread

Widget

the boss could technically read anything we wrote

My old work actually ran into some issues because they couldn't see DMs/private channels.

Maybe this is a cloud vs. self-hosted thing? It's been a few years since I've worked there though.

Show thread

floofloof Jun 20, 2023

In an average workplace that seems like a bit of a losing battle to fight since everyone can message each other on personal phones anyway. But I can see it if it's a workplace that handles sensitive information and restricts the use of personal devices.

My workplace went remote-only. So they don't really stand a chance of preventing us messaging each other on our personal devices. I do try to keep the work machine separate though.