@krisnelson

I’ve never known anything organized by people not to periodically enter into what seems like endless, tedious, vociferous, and sometimes even vicious debate.

This seems to happen rather less with more centralized hierarchy and rather more with flatter, more democratic governance, but it always happens.

The trick for success & longevity of larger whole(s) (sometimes newly forked) is getting through it without completely destroying fruitful relationships and functional levels of trust. #meta

Jun 19, 2023 at 1:18pmWeb
Show threadMx Autumn Jun 19, 2023

@krisnelson well said, but at the end of the day a deal with the devil is still a deal with the devil.

In this case everyone know that and the debate appears to largely orbit how evil the devil actually is and how soon that might materialise.

Show thread@krisnelsonJun 19, 2023
@carbontwelve likely so on the merits & substance of this debate—I’m just reminding myself that whatever the merits of Meta and federation, something like the form & noise of this kind of discussion, annoying as it is for many of us, is to be expected in a decentralized system
Show threadJustin ⏚Jun 19, 2023
@krisnelson yes exactly, I think rather than trying to "solve for messiness" (as many try to do with ever-complicated rulesets), it's probably easier to accept that "inefficient" messiness is unavoidable in free systems. As Captain Picard said: "Vigilance is the price we must continually pay".
Show threadMichaelJun 19, 2023
@krisnelson You say that like “endless, tedious, vociferous, and sometimes even vicious debate” is bad. Others might call it spirited dialogue… 😊