FiendishForkThe Steam subreddit has been forced back open.
I'm not sure how they are actually anticipating this not to go negatively. If they are pushing active moderators and replacing them, that seems like a PR nightmare waiting to happen on top of all of this.
lividhenSo done with reddit I finally took the time to figure out how federated platforms work. Just started on kbin, and I've been seeing a lot more of what I actually want to see.
iAmTheTotKbin's been good to me as a replacement so far. I have my nitpicks but I also understand it's very early days.
considering how early it is, this place is very active
It’s surprisingly polished for how new it is too.
AtomicPurpleIt's even better if you install the Kbin enhancement userscript in your browser.
AwwabThis is the one I have been using. Definitely has some nice qol improvements until they get added to the website at some point.
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468612-kbin-enhancement-script
Oh this is great! Thanks for the heads up!
@AtomicPurple
Is that stylus one? I tried on chrome desktop and kiwi on mobile, but doesn't look any different, seems like I'm not able to get it active somehow
Is that stylus one? I tried on chrome desktop and kiwi on mobile, but doesn't look any different, seems like I'm not able to get it active somehow
I love that it federates with lemmy too. So many options.
Hell yeah, welcome! It is very nice and comfy here so far :)
CalchargerThe people who care have left. The people who don't care stayed and they obviously won't give a shit. The only way they're going to give a fuss is when the content torpedoes, which it looks like it's already started.
CalQuality content creators are mostly gone from Reddit. Quality content submitters are mostly gone from Reddit. Quality content commenters are mostly gone from Reddit.
So what's left?
Mods who think they have value and for some reason care about their /r , and working for free.
Ads thinly disguised as posts. Bots spamming and upvoting those fake posts.
And nobody important reading.
The quality difference on lemmy/kbin is staggering. This is the perfect time to be part of it.
It's inevitable it will start to slide once critical mass of users have been reached though. I'm curious if federated and smaller instances will keep it agile and fresh and big corp influence free.
Yeah my big question is what happens when the replacement mods start taking bribes or posting spam? Without moderator tools, mods get a much more raw deal.
HighsightThe community is posting about steam, the water vapor, in retaliation. It's a beautiful thing.
I love malicious compliance.
GeekFTWThis is what I want to see from every subreddit that is forcibly reopened. The admins can try and force mods to 'do their jobs', but they sure as shit can't force what can be/gets posted!
kaduThe issue is some groups of mods are terribly afraid of no longer being mods - for whatever reason - so they don't join these efforts.
MadCybertistI was a mod of a 3m subscriber sub…. I do NOT get why mods would give a shit about being removed. Shits really no fun.
I never moderated anything with 3M... I can only imagine the mod queue haha, but I did moderate one at 500K and I totally agree.
I mean makes sense they might be a little cautious about what they do, cause like if they get removed the people reddit replaces them with aren't gonna let anything supporting the protests go through.
Well, right now they aren't supporting the protests so what's the difference? "Oh we don't want new mods because they won't protest, so we will stop protesting to avoid that!" the only difference is who gets to be called the mod.
I think they could if they wanted to, I know that some subs actually hide your posts with automod until they get released by the mod team so it stands to reason you could do that on one of the core subs. It wouldn't be fun for the mods and would definitely cause a lot of frustration and issues with people all trying to be the first to post something but then they have to wait 8 hours for a mod to wake up and approve it.
Virgin making the sub about John Oliver vs the chad taking the name of the reddit too seriously
I just posted to the steam sub about how much I love steam turbines
I dunno, I think just remaining closed would have worked better. This will attract additional attention to Reddit. Also, the subreddit wasn't 'forced' back open, the mods just caved under a bit of pressure from the admins (which we don't even know is true. why on earth are they asking the steam subreddit to open back up when there are so many largers subs still private?). Smells like slacktivism to me, and mods who don't want to lose their power. Meh.
XathonnThey sent mail to every moderator of a closed subreddit I think. I wasn't specifically targetted. I doubt reddit would really care if /r/piracy opened back up, but they got the threat mail
I doubt reddit would really care if /r/piracy opened back up
You'd think so, but didn't the head mod get demodded?
Mates, today without warning, the reddit royal navy attacked. I've been demoded by the admins. - Divisions by zero
A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it. [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/7dc4b932-f5d8-4e4a-bfca-34ca66821372.png] Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much. Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.
This reminds me of the early days when you would goto steam.com only to realize that was not the correct website. I just checked and it seems like steam.com has been taken down but if I remember correctly it was some engineering company. I wonder if they are holding out for more cash from Gaben.
I remember that. It used to also say "this domain is not for sale" on the front page.
Darren du Nord@Highsight @FiendishFork Fight the power!
It's funny, but I don't quite get the point of this. If you are boycotting Reddit then you shouldn't be going there to post about things. If you ARE going there, you are no longer boycotting. Reddit doesn't care what you post about. You are still participating in the site. It's just driving traffic back to Reddit, which harms the cause.
The point is the lurkers subscribed there are going to get bored of steam pictures and unsubscribe, if it happens to enough subs then a lot of the passive userbase will end up either spending less time or leave entirely. Since the vast majority of users are lurkers, it'll outweigh the number of people creating these rebellion posts and Reddit should see a net loss in traffic. At least, that's what I've gathered. Please don't shoot the messenger if I'm wrong or it's a stupid idea
[Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD 
@[email protected] I just looked - I was not disappointed.
nmac101but there are users advocating changing the sub to be about actual steam
istg if they do that, itll be one big ass troll to the reddit mod team 💀
madjoI thought spez wasn't worried about reddit's bottomline with these protests?
What a weird way of showing that you're not concerned.
What a weird way of showing that you're not concerned.
freebrick... Reddit
WTFisthisOMGreallyI never thought I could continue to enjoy reddit after what they did to Christian Selig and the other 3PA developers, but all this malicious compliance is delicious!
I’m only going on there to support stuff like this, at least until Apollo is turned off. Then I’ll mostly be here.
dismalnowall this malicious compliance is delicious!
Indeed.
If Reddit Inc's tactic is to pry open private subs and inject patsy mods, then there is only one thing left to do: deface them to destroy their utility.
steam should be about water vapor,
piracy should be about swashbuckling
/pics is already nothing but "sexy pics of John Oliver"
/gifs is similar
r/Art is on the John Oliver train as well, just in an artistic form.
Explainlikeimfive should mostly be "you'll learn about it when you're older".
Space should be pictures of empty rooms or walls.
AdviceAnimals should be random bits of advice one animal would give to another, like "see how that hole in the wall looks weird? That's a window. Don't fly into that."
AbsoluteUnits? Just pictures of items that have units marked on them, like a 20kg bag of mulch or 5L of water.
What does it mean to force a sub open? Did Reddit remove the mods ability to make the sub private?
TyyThe mods said in a pinned post that they were given the option from reddit to re-open or have the mods removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/14bvwe1/rsteam_and_reddits_new_policies/
I just broke my protest since the blackout again to see if PCGaming was still closed and it still is. Nothing but respect for that team. Hope they see it through until reddit decides to go nuclear. I'll gladly create a new account to shit all over the new version.
Matthias720The thing that bothers me is the number of people on the r/steam announcement commenting that the mods are doing this to hold on to power and have sold out to the admins. Speaking as someone who has previously run a community (though a much, much smaller one) there is a lot of hard work and effort that goes on behind the scenes to make sure that these kinds of internet spaces stay clean and healthy. It's easy to say "Look at the power-tripping mods", and yes those do exist, but to pretend that every mod is like that sells short the people who sacrifice of themselves for the betterment of the community. A lot of metaphorical and occasionally literal blood, sweat, and tears go into managing an online social space, which I can attest to. Does that excuse poor mod behavior? Never! However, we shouldn't cut off our own nose to spite our face. I just hope that we can stop fighting ourselves and direct our collective vitriol at the real perpetrators; spez and his cronies.
The point is more that the writing is on the wall for that website, and should just quit moderating them and go to one of the alternatives or come here. Saying oh well and giving in to this strong arming from the admins is just making it worse for them down the line.
It's time to jump ship. The longer these people keep denying that, the more power they give to the admins.
While I appreciate that point of view, and it absolutely feels that way, I can relate to the reluctance the r/Steam mods to torching everything. They have carefully cultivated the sub like a garden, and even though the local HOA (the admins) are threatening action, the mods aren't happy with the idea of immediately ripping out their prize-winning tulips and replacing them with cardboard cutouts just to be spiteful. I'm sure they want to try less extreme measures to salvage as much content as they can before making a riskier decision. Again, I get that things seem hopeless from the user side of things, but I know if I was in their shoes I'd be searching every avenue for a solution, even ones I wouldn't normally consider.
Alkaris 
@FiendishFork This is gonna backfire majorly for them to force it back open again.
KooMSlayer69Honestly I think all of these subs should just spam the whole spez moderated jailbait thing and have nothing but that in the front page. Even if these subs reopen, they would ruin spez's image even more.
Does this scum even cares about himself anymore?
maybe not but his intent is profit and making reddit open for public trade, and I don't think investors are going to like having something like that flooding all of reddit which might cause them to rethink their choices. I mean with the global reddit population declining and having something that fucked up about the owner of reddit flooding the website, I wouldn't want to buy reddit stock lol.