Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week

https://beehaw.org/post/607080

Owner of Destructoid, The Escapist, Siliconera, and others Fires Writers and Hires for "AI Editor" to Churn Out Hundreds of Articles Per Week - Beehaw

According to their website [https://gamurs.group/brands/], Publications owned by GAMURS Group include: Destructoid The Escapist Siliconera Twinfinite Dot Esports Upcomer Gamepur Prima Games PC Invasion Attack of the Fanboy Touch, Tap, Play Pro Game Guides Gamer Journalist Operation Sports GameSkinny

I wonder if this will end as poorly as that eating disorder hotline that did the same thing.
At least this is less likely to hurt or kill people.

that eating disorder hotline that did the same thing.

Excuse me..... what???

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/eating-disorder-helpline-chatbot-disabled/

It’s already been reversed because of how badly it did.

Eating disorder helpline shuts down AI chatbot that gave bad advice

The National Eating Disorder Association had fired human helpline employees after they voted to unionize.

They didn't reverse it in the sense that they went back to human operators. They got rid of the AI by getting rid of the service altogether by the looks of things.
Sometimes no service is better than bad service?
And of course they fired the workers after they voted to unionize, what else we would expect?
Haha that's dystopic!
One person to edit 250 AI articles per week? I'd be very surprised if they found them.

“Editor”

Read 50 short articles each day and approve any that aren’t blatantly offensive.

Just use another AI to edit the first AI's articles!
It's AI all the way down!
This is fucking gross. There’s no one who thinks people will read the mass shit they pump out.
A lot of sites like these are already just click farms with “articles” consisting of a headline and a couple poorly-researched sentences. Switching to AI probably won’t significantly change the quality of what they’re churning out.
Right. That’s why searching for anything on the internet SUCKS these days. The results are all just filler bullshit.

Something to keep in mind is that these companies aren't concerned with total profit or revenue or anything like that - it's all about the percentage. I suspect in the short term, these AI-articles will look very profitable. Networking effects, consumer habits, and SEO will carry the day for a time.

But what always screws these MBA types is the inability to recognize the specific natures of their business and the second order effects. Not all costs are representable on a spread-sheet.

Basically, the second order to me really boils down to this: AI generated content isn't really a 'brand'. Good writing shops tend to build a following with their writers and expectations with their editors. The writing, investigative, and editorial bent of a house is essentially what makes a shop. See The Economist and The New Yorker as examples. In other places, a lot of niche shops are selling personality as much as product with youtube, podcasts, and others.

this means there is no real 'value add' someone like an AI shop can provide. You are throwing yourselves down the hole of becoming a pure commodity, and as every business major knows, being a commodity sucks. Short term profitable, but literally no one cares about where a mass produced nail comes from and its a race to the bottom of price.

So, as time goes on, with the barrier for entry being incredibly low, every bill and joe who fancies themselves an SEO wizard has no reason to not jump in, so your competition rises and your ability to charge some value for (ads?) drops a lot. But that's the tip of the iceberg. Many of the companies that would occupy this brandless, commodity-filling space are way better positioned to make a run at it than the GAMURS Groups of the world. Microsoft's Bing chat and (probably soon to follow Bard) will whip your ass in the long-game. Why search Bing to get an AI article from the Escapist when Bing will do it for me? I really doubt anything churned out by an AI with some edits will be that much better per convenience.

This whole could easily collapse in on itself. Like a lot of people in the AI space, I'm interested to watch what happens when AI begins to consume and be built on its own content.

Basically, the second order to me really boils down to this: AI generated content isn’t really a ‘brand’. Good writing shops tend to build a following with their writers and expectations with their editors. The writing, investigative, and editorial bent of a house is essentially what makes a shop. See The Economist and The New Yorker as examples. In other places, a lot of niche shops are selling personality as much as product with youtube, podcasts, and others.

Yep. This is why I've been a paying subscriber to Ars Technica for over a decade. You're exactly correct. Ditto with NPR.

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good luck with that, I think after a bit of time us gaming community needs our own domain white/blacklist just so we can filter our search result to the more writer/contributor friendly sites.
Just about every area of interest already needs one. Every topic I've wondered about in the past several years and looked for with a search engine has horrible articles that have been SEOed to death, and it is going to get worse with AI being able to generate the bulk of the article now.
So now I know which sites to ignore completely from now on.
Probably wouldn’t hurt to blacklist links from sites known to produce only AI generated articles.
Amen. I’ve already removed the ones listed above from my RSS reader (that I had subscribed to).
I'm pretty sure I'm already ignoring all these sites.
To be honest, I'm intrigued to see just how badly this will go. I expect some open job positions soon
Eh, not as big of a deal as people think. You've probably already read lots of AI generated content without even realising it
I often do notice it, although I sometimes wonder if people might be this stupid in real life or not.
Fair, but how about the stuff you didn't notice? You'd never know. College professors are being tricked everyday.

Kinda hard to prove a negative, right?

How would you know if you didn't notice? Could be dozens but could just as well be 0.

Considering how many blogs are just AI generated garbage now, it doesn’t surprise me that the big players are looking to automate their articles.

The issue is that AI can’t really create… it just remakes what it already knows and has seen before. No hot takes. No new ideas. Just whatever has been done before.

Hopefully this isn’t the new way everything goes…

Also, Chat GPT at least still writes at the level of a somewhat talented ninth grader. Its prose is stilted, and the way it structures essays and stories is super formulaic.

It's absolutely not at the level it can replace a talented human writer yet. (I have no doubt that day is coming, probably sooner than we think, but it's not here yet.)

doesn't the average american read at a 6th grade level or something?
Writing is harder than reading. For example, compare the writing in a children's book to something written by a child
It doesn’t commit to anything either, its writing is absolutely full of weasel words and a detached perspective.
I've been to Destructoid. They don't hire talented human writers. They barely hire human writers.
@ArugulaZ Sad what has become of dtoid. Back when it started it was the more indie alternative to the likes of joystiq. I guess the original owner sold it at some point.

Destructoid; The Escapist; Siliconera; Twinfinite; Dot Esports; Upcomer; Gamepur; Prima Games; PC Invasion; Attack of the Fanboy; Touch, Tap, Play; Pro Game Guides; Gamer Journalist; Operation Sports; GameSkinny

Noted. I'm officially starting a "not reading your crap" list.

Yep, time to just blackhole their DNS entries.
Gotta say, all those sites sound like ai generated titles already
Lol, this might be enough to make Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation quit The Escapist; if that happens, they're likely done soon after.
I hope he does, it would be insane

These generative models are only capable of regurgitation. They're fed content, and they come up with statistical distributions of words and phraes in their training data to sample. But they're still just chopping up other people's copyrighted work and gluing it together.

This gets into generic "you can't copyright individual words" territory when dealing with very common topics, but when you get into niche topics, the training data gets sparse, and the distributions stop allowing for creating something new.

And they can't extrapolate beyond their data. All models break down once you leave the boundaries of the data.

So, any articles generated by these things about something new are either going to be trained on too small a data set to avoid lawsuits, or just be incredibly factually wrong.

And if they're publishing reviews of new games that are full of factual errors, they could get sued for defamation.

This is just stupidly risky on their part.

Sure, flush your websites reputation down the toilet. Good luck with that.
Someone correct me if I am wrong but ai editor implies the writer will remain and they're using ai ton "fix" the article and write the headline. Isn't that one of the main responsibilities of an editor?
I think it's the other way round. AI writes, the human editor touches things up a little, and they poop out hundreds of articles a week.
I hope the new EU legislation regarding AI also covers this type of things.
I just don't see ChatGPT being capable enough quite yet. These articles are going to be low quality, written in the same voice, and filled with factual errors. Not to mention released at a volume that nobody will bother to keep up with. Seems like self destruction on their part.
An AI writer is always going to be trash. AI can't experience anything, only remix preexisting content. So it'll always be a regurgitation of what others have posted. But if we keep cutting out humans, then it'll eventually be nothing content on repeat.
There is also always a chance that it's simply going to be wrong, ML cannot differentiate what is the truth or not. We see it happen with easy mistakes that people wouldn't make and it's going to be even worse when they get used for something more nuanced or complex.

Of course it’ll be trash. Quality isn’t the goal, just bulk with the aim of getting maybe fewer views per article but pumping out so so many that it’s more views, or rather ad impressions, overall with much lower cost.

Problem is it’s shortsighted. Once those sources quickly get a reputation for trash quality folk will learn not to bother clicking through to those sources.

Any service looking to replace human writers with ai is positioning itself for failure once generative ai becomes more mainstream. Once your average Joe can ask a native phone app for anything they want, the Only value of written text will be the human element.
"250 articles a week..." So they are just transitioning to create creating spam? Never read any of those sites but focusing on output just sounds like spam. filtered
It’s pure clickbait farming. The article doesn’t need to be any good as long as the headline gets a click and just enough seconds of attention for the ad space to be profitable. Zero journalistic integrity, just gaming the numbers >:-(
And I just unsubscribed from the Escapist and Destructoid RSS feeds. Thanks for the heads up!
More help from companies on letting me know the websites to stay away from. This isn't the first time DToid did stupid crap. Back on Justin.tv, maybe they had converted to Twitch already, they had a BUNCH of streamers that were ruling the platform, then they said that their streamers would have to review and give positive reviews of sponsored games. All the streamers left the group and Dtoid lost a TON of traction and Twitch exploded from Justin.TV.
This may be a little tangential, but does anyone know of any game news sites with RSS feeds that have talented writers working for them? Some of the sites I've followed for years have been regurgitating Twitter opinions more and more, and it makes finding thoughtful (or just plain informative) articles far more difficult.
If you like MMOs and other multiplayer games, https://massivelyop.com/ is very good. Talented writers funded by reader donations.
I’ve used RockPaperShotgun for a long time https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/

Aye, long term subscriber myself, they do good work. Although I'd have probably linked the 'everything, newest first' page:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/latest

So... these sites are all just random text generators now? What's the point?
Cheaper to produce clickbaity articles. Most of these websites are already just trash "articles" made for clicks