nudeJun 17, 2023

NSFW instance lemmynsfw just explicitly allowed drawn child porn

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.... #RedditMigration

https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633

We're allowing non-IRL underage looking content - Lemmy NSFW

When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases. Edit: If all people are against this, then who answered to this poll? https://strawpoll.com/polls/bVg8ovmLznY/results [https://strawpoll.com/polls/bVg8ovmLznY/results]

Show threadOtome-chanJun 17, 2023

saying loli is drawn child porn

:| loli does not refer to children. there are loli adults.

Show threadlynny
Some people would rather ignore Japanese culture and push their views on others. It is so strange to me that the west cannot tell drawings from reality.
Jun 17, 2023 at 10:13amWeb
Show threadOtome-chanJun 17, 2023

I don't even care about the ruling. I just hate that people keep conflating loli/shota with children when it really has nothing to do with that.

But yeah it's wild how people have issues with drawings.

Show threadHanhulaJun 17, 2023

It's not Japanese culture. I know a fair few Japanese friends who are disgusted by lolicon.

The fact is, if you're drawing childlike characters and putting them in sexual situations.. there's something fucked there. Sure, they're not real, but it's still fucked up to be attracted to that in the first place. They look like children!

Show threadOtome-chanJun 17, 2023
Hi, I'm an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor. Should I just not be allowed to date and have relationships with other adults?
Show threadHanhulaJun 17, 2023
Hi, I'm an adult woman who also looks pretty young! There's still a huge difference between how I look now in my late 20s and how a prepubescent child looks! These things are false equivalencies. Stop trying to justify this shit.
Show threadOtome-chanJun 17, 2023
there's also a difference between a prepubescent anime child and a loli anime adult.
Show threadgmtomJun 17, 2023
If you can't tell the difference between a small adult and an actual child, you have major issues.
Show threadOtome-chanJun 17, 2023
my thoughts exactly about people who are anti loli. if they can't tell the difference between a small anime adult and an actual anime child, you have major issues.
Show threadgmtomJun 17, 2023
Except that argument doesn't work with anime because it's not real people, hence why some people draw characters that are 2000 year old vampires 5hat just so happen to look exactly like an 8 year old girl as a way to try and get away with it.
Show threadgeoffervescentJun 17, 2023

Of course not. But if you date and have relationships the other people involved understand the context exactly. If you started sending random nudes of your "I'm an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor" self to strangers, how what would the context be.

Now of course NSFW animation is harmless. But you can understand the worry they might be looking at CP if they have zero reference points from life or culture except what's illegal tabboo and disgusting in their culture.

The great thing about the Fediverse though - there will likely be an instance where a vast majority share your opinion and can connect to all the same instances from an 3rd origin point instance.

Show threadOtome-chanJun 17, 2023

If the concern is "normies seeing", then perhaps a suitable compromise would be to hide such content from the front page by default? so that only people who explicitly subscribe to it can see it?

I'm an advocate of "curate your own experience". I don't want to see half the fucked up nsfw shit people post, yet you do not see me crying over defederating instances that host it.