Well regulated militia strikes again
A dad shot and killed his three children in Ohio.
They were ages 3, 4 and 7.
In 2023 so far:
Deaths due to gun violence 19,519
Mass shootings 295
Children under 18 murdered 810
This won’t stop on its own.
It’s the guns.
In the Fediverse let's have higher expectations than on 4chan or T. This is a smaller and more human-scale community. Let's not say anything here that we wouldn't say in person.
/cc @flexghost
@lucasgonze @flexghost
...but if those people who love guns so much cannot get them legally that would help.
Guns obviously don't kill people themselves. They make it a lot easier though.
@customer228 guns.
This is a gun issue.
Smoothbrains try to say it’s mental health or anything in bad faith
Other developed nations have the same issues we do except they regulate guns. They don’t have the same problem with gun deaths
It’s the guns.
@flexghost We have a big problem with guns in this country... If these brain dead republicans weren't knee deep with the NRA, we'd have seen change a long time ago...
To republicans: Enjoy that blood money...
@customer228 look at the people on my gun posts. Willfully brushing off children being slaughter so they can have sex with their guns
Imagine the kind of person it takes to be able to laugh off a child being murdered - gun violence is the number one killer of children in this country and everyone of these goatee bald head Oakley mid life crisis republislugs is to blame
@wauz
But guns make it a lot easier. So they are a massive problem.
@wauz
Take the guns away -> How are gun nuts gonna shoot people?
Everyone who claims guns are no the (or at least a) problem is part of the problem.
I am talking about legal purchase opportunities of course.
@ruedi
I've heard that so many times. I live in Germany, and everybody seems to be scared about guns, though many exist. I don't own any handgun nor rifle, most gun owners have several, but we don't have many cases of homicide at all. Some knife attacks, but the big difference is, that fighting in general has become very unpopular. The real difference is the aggression level. That is coincidal with better home economy and general level of support. Our social system provides health care for everyone, with only a few drop-outs. And so on.
I think, that correlates, while gun ownership and violence does not correlate.
No offense, but common wrong opinions like yours, which are always the same and always in bad faith, are not worth my time
I'm outraged by children being murdered left and right
you're crying, afraid you won't be able to have sex with your guns
Put up or shut up. I'm sick of people like you holding us all back.
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2698492
https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier
@flexghost
Well, I'm no elephant nor donkey. I'm a sociologist.
I'm guessing the father was both seriously mentally ill and deeply religious (same same) and believed his version of "heaven" was better than their lives in the US.
Émile Durkheim wrote about such problems and the conditions that cause said problems in his 1897 book "Le Suicide: Étude de sociologie." Want to understand what's happening to the US today? Read that century old book.
Also check out Chris Hedges' excellent talk on the subject titled "American Anomie."
@brianbeeler This post is about gun violence.
Bad faith arguments that put the US in this situation co opt this argument by steering it toward mental health. Another problem that the nation refuses to address but NOT MY POINT
"John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment"
That's the real answer: repeal the second amendment. Anything less is meaningless because the SCOTUS will just continue to overturn gun reform laws.
The proliferation of gun violence in the US happens because of the very unreasonable availability of firearms but also behind every shooting is a story of suffering.
With that said repealing the 2nd amendment must happen first.
@brianbeeler this is what I wanted to see
Excellent.
@flexghost "this is what I wanted to see"
“One of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.” - SCOTUS Chief Justice Burger, emeritus
Repeal the 2nd amendment and ban assault weapons for everyone but the military.
I lived in Việt Nam where there's only 1.6 firearms per 100 people unlike the US where's there's 120.5 per 100. I felt safe everywhere I went in VN. Not the same in the US.
@flexghost "there are many nations that have quite a few guns. But not this amount."
I'm sure we agree 1.25 firearms for EVERY man, woman and child in the US is, and I dislike using this word but must, insane.
The US must change its ways and repealing the 2nd amendment is a great place to start.
@krebstar @flexghost "Agree, however, it's never going to happen in our government in it's current configuration."
Completely agree. Like women's suffrage in the US change will only happen with repeated public protests. Our lives depend on it.
Sounds logical.
The SCOTUS will continue to overturn any new restrictions on the civilian possession of firearms making your suggestion nonviable. Sorry.
There is one option, but so unlikely I've never discussed it: ban assault weapons as part of a treaty [with another country] or a change to ITAR. This would require the POTUS and 2/3s of the Senate to approve such a treaty. Overnight it would require all assault weapons in civilian possession to be confiscated and destroyed.
@flexghost @rigeldyesshall "try to get the Senate to pass a declaration that states peanut butter and jelly sandwiches taste good with a 2/3 consensus"
Completely agree hence the reason why I've never publicly spoken of that option.
We must follow the example of the Suffrage movement and without waiver in our resolve repeal the 2nd Amendment and demand that all semi-automatic weapons be restricted for the sole use of the military.
Anything else is meaningless.
Not that long ago the idea that women should not have the right to vote was common. That opinion has changed for the vast majority.
The same change can happen with the ownership of semi-automatic weapons.
“The ultimate, hidden truth of the world is that it is something that we make, and could just as easily make differently.”
― David Graeber
This SCOTUS supports laws abridging Constitutional rights passed by Congress but I don't see Congress amending the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934.
Sandy Hook was America's "Port Arthur" moment yet the NRA successfully pushed the "good guy with a gun" narrative so I doubt images will make any difference.
Sustained, mass protests demanding the repeal of the 2nd Amendment and the banning of semi-automatic weapons outside of the military is the only way forward.
@RiaResists @flexghost "one does not have to be 'mentally ill' for this to happen.
Every day in American murdering one’s whole family is a good reaction to distress."
Hence the reason for my initial post mentioning the work of Émile Durkheim. Chris Hedges video I also mentioned does an outstanding job of validating your point.
A head/chest pic of George Washington, next to the words: "A well-regulated militia doesn't kill school children" https://masto.ai/@iuculano/110212207161949840
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