Stalin

Certain aspects of Stalin? Or in general?

Both. Fascist apologist like to cherry pick palatable characteristics of figures like Stalin, or Hitler, or Andrew Jackson in order to destigmatize thier idolatry of these figures. These "certain aspects" are the tip of the wedge they use to destroy rationality and peace.

A reasonable person who would like to discuss the benefits of communism would point to the value of labor, advantages of unions, and the dignity of the worker, not the evil, paranoid, and violent person of Stalin.

Always, the stink of fascism follows the idolization of so called "great men." Excuses after excuses.

The Holocaust most definitely happened, and was perpetuated by the Nazis. Please don't accuse me of this.

Communism, or to be most specific, Marxism, was most definitely aligned against Hitler.

Stalin, was not. He would have watched Hitler kill all of Europe had the Nazis not attacked Russia. Same as the united states if Japan had not attacked them.

this is incorrect. the USSR made a suggestion to Czechoslovakia to make a defensive pact in case of nazi invasion. they also suggested this to poland. the polish did not like the idea. poland teamed up with nazi germany to invade czechoslovakia, and czechoslovakia preferred the help of the west, which backstabbed them and did not assist them despite declarations to the contrary. this meant that the soviet union could not intervene early in a large alliance against nazi germany. instead, they had to rebuild after the civil war as quickly as possible. they are on record knowing the germans were going to attack well before the war.

it should also be noted that poland invaded and annexed parts of independent ukraine and russia prior to WW2. the west was hoping the nazis and poland would both invade russia together. the polish ambassador to germany was in fact favorable to handing danzig over to nazi germany, and is on record about their surprise at the attack on poland.

why you have an obsession about stalin is beyond me. especially in regards to advocating for violence against marginalized groups that are usually socialist 'tankies'. the soviet union does not exist anymore. grow up.

I'm not obsessed with Stalin. I'm also not a Holocaust denier. You really seem keen on saying inflammatory things about me without any preceding context.

I will observe that I think Stalin was an awful person who tarnished the reputation of socialism for a century. I don't have anything against socialist, being one myself.

I have a beef with apologist for failed communist states like the soviet onion. I feel they deeply misrepresent socialism.

I will observe that I think Stalin was an awful person who tarnished the reputation of socialism for a century. I don’t have anything against socialist, being one myself.

this is an american/european thing, not a rest of the world thing. i am not an american, i live elsewhere right now and i am also trans. you simply have been propagandized, and you believe it because you are a product of your environment.

you are a holocaust denier if you deny that communists fought fascism and instead supported nazism.

It's a semantic argument, then. To me a fascist if a Donald Trump. To me, Facisim is a broad set of characteristics which can be attributed to people outside of the context of Nazi Germany. For example, I might call an ancient emperor a fascist.

Facisim to you is a political movement linked only to the Nazis and thier allies.

That's not unfair. It's a different definition of the word.

no, i agree with that statement. i disagree with the statement that communists (which are called tankies in the original word) are fascist.

Trump, even if he werent fascist, has interlocuters that very obviously are. I would not call someone before the 1800s a fascist, maybe a protofascist. Fascism is distinctly measured by its reaction to socialism, which is a distinct set of ideas proposed largely by Kropotkin, Marx and Engels, Lenin, and Hegel while under the influence of industrial society. If you read Mussolini's Corporatism, it becomes very obvious what fascism is and how they use socialist organizing tactics and even terminology to undermine our movements. Whether you are communist or anarchist, it doesn't matter, they subvert the method of organization. Franco subverted anarchists in Spain with National Syndicalism, and the Nazis subverted ANTIFA in Germany with National Socialism.

Either you have a misunderstanding of what a tankie is in common vernacular, or I do.

My definition of a tankie is as follows: A "tankie" is a term that originated in British politics, referring to individuals who unconditionally supported actions of the Soviet Union, including the use of military force to suppress dissent. Today, it's often used more broadly to describe those who uncritically support or defend perceived socialist or communist authoritarian regimes, sometimes even in the face of human rights abuses. The term is typically used pejoratively within leftist circles.

I don't believe a communist is necessarily a tankie, but a tankie would call themselves a communist.

Personally, as an American, I would never fly an American flag. To me, it represents the violence of the state, the genocide of the indigenous people, and capitalism.

I believe that the Soviet union, as well as some modern communist states, have largely failed to represent the Marxist vision, and I am extremely critical of people who are embrace the theater of certain communist states.

I would like to point out that the word tankie was used to refer to people that specifically supported the Hungarian communists request for military aid against revolution in Hungary. We can very obviously see how anti-communist revolution in Hungary is going for Hungarian trans people right now. So in the original sense of the word, I am a tankie.

It is definitely a word that has gotten a lot of strange meanings now.

The issue with a lot of communist states is that it is a nonstop struggle against foreign powers that seek to exploit your people. Failure is unacceptable of course, but its not because they want to or planned it that way. By all means, if an anarchist project somehow took over my region and was successful, I would support it to the hilt. That is unlikely, the biggest group in my area is communist. They even support trans rights!