David HoThis is not normal.
DaveOfTheNui@davidho
Going to have to disagree with you.
Yes this is normal... The new normal of wildly out of control.
Welcome to the brave new world we created.
JC 🪐💾🌄📚@davidho As a data vis guy, a chart only showing 7 previous years for something as long-term as the climate and forest fires is not very useful and borderline misleading depending on what previous decades show. I understand there might not be satellite data going back much further but that just means it's not a good source of data for long-term trends.
og_of_bashan@jcdenton @davidho 20 years and average is visible here: https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/m_parrington/status/1667445233401954305#m - this is carbon emissions, not hectares burnt though. The dataset this is based upon (Copernicus Atmosphere Monitoring Service global biomass burning emissions based on fire radiative power) starts in 2003.
Mark Parrington (@m_parrington)
Perspective on the scale of #CanadaWildfires with #CopernicusAtmosphere GFAS data https://confluence.ecmwf.int/display/CKB/CAMS+global+biomass+burning+emissions+based+on+fire+radiative+power+%28GFAS%29%3A+data+documentation showing the fire locations/intensity across the country & the incredibly steep increase in emissions since 1 May (up to 9 June) compared to 2003-2022 #wildfire #IIFF
@og_of_bashan That's a little better, thanks.
Nicole Parsons@og_of_bashan @jcdenton @davidho
Republican & OPEC billionaires funded climate denial for decades
https://slate.com/technology/2015/12/exxonmobil-koch-family-have-powered-climate-change-denial-for-decades.html
https://orionmagazine.org/article/koch-network-climate-change-misinformation/
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zqxm/how-koch-industries-fake-scientists-and-rush-limbaugh-invented-climate-denial
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58982445
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/global-warming-policy-foundation-net-zero-watch-koch-brothers/
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2021/10/21/leaked-climate-lobbying-ipcc-glasgow/
OPEC's advice to the UN is "More oil!"
https://www.energyconnects.com/news/oil/2023/february/opec-chief-tells-climate-activists-to-look-at-the-big-picture/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/06/16/climate-goals-opec-oil-prices-energy-crisis-shortages-fossil-fuels/
Oil producers are cynically appointed to head climate summits
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/uae-names-adnoc-chief-jaber-cop28-climate-conference-president-2023-01-12/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64269436
@jcdenton read the alt text.
Hitsu Yonai@davidho @jcdenton
Ok - let me write the Daily Mail 🤢 type headlines for these:
The graph shows that the two warmest years recorded across the globe (2016 and 2020) were associated with less destructive fire seasons in Canada.
The Alt Text shows that most of the worst Canadian fire seasons were more than 20 years ago, and though this year is likely to be bad, it likely wont surpass the record set more than 30 years ago in 1989.
Bc Clarity Carlton-Martin@davidho Normal is meh. This is Joon
msgbi
xs4me2Very worrying…
bubbajet@davidho Yes. We are destroying the climate. It’s a horrific stat/graph. It’s also based on some 23 years of data to represent geological time scales, of which 10 or so years are depicted.
You're not wrong! You’re also arming every climate denier with an effective tool to do their “debunking.”
Peacefulrebel@davidho It is the new normal
Crazy Pony@davidho Next i hope it does not get that worse that year the line will stay close to zero because no forest left to burn
Kevin Karhan 
@davidho it is becoming the new normal because the masses don't go out enforce #SystemChangeNotClimateChange !
Joeyfingis@davidho I have existential dread when it comes to the environment
@davidho well... fuck.
Jimbo@davidho It is now.
dan
Canada's wildfires: Where they are, how much has burned and how it's changing air quality | CBC News
The summer of 2023 is shaping up to be the worst wildfire season in recent years. We're tracking where all the fires are in Canada, how much land has been consumed and how these fires are affecting air quality.
digfish
Earthling@davidho These fires are not normal, and yet we keep fiddling.
Mark@davidho
Any idea why 2020 is that low in this graph?
Any idea why 2020 is that low in this graph?
Steve
antoine 3,141592...
Kevin Leecaster@davidho
Does it make sense to use the term normal or even record-breaking after we've already changed our climate?
If everyone soon stops burning fossil fuels, stops emitting other greenhouse gases, and helps to drawdown the carbon dioxide we've already polluted our thin precious with we may yet still be able to get back to normal.
@davidho … arson is also abnormal … fines + imprisonment x3 …
Jim Goodall@shyduroff @davidho There was no arson. This was a normal result of thunderstorms causing smoldering, which broke into flames the next day when that day's hot winds rose.
Your arson claims are nonsense.
Just stop.
Your arson claims are nonsense.
Just stop.
Joe 📷 🖖🤨@davidho It is now, unfortunately.
CounselorBecky🖖🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🇺🇦🗳🌊😊
Kevin RussellPeople see this and think thats terrible, but it is not "a bad thing" it is a warning.
Dont draw a line from the end of 23's burn, up, to more acres burned. Draw the line from year to year, with the ever increasing disastrous outcomes.
We are being screamed at, the ALARM is skreetching!
These are warnings, next year will be worse,
We cannot "encourage" lower gas use, cant encourage the building wind generation, cant "incentivise" solar we HAVE TO BUILD RENEWABLES like its war.
lord pthenq1@davidho
That is global warming. All the forests will burn if the current temperature average is too high compared with the topical temperature average.
No sure that something can be done a about that at this point.
Jonathan Reid
cuan_knaggs
savi@davidho I'm curious whether the ash emitted to the atmosphere won't affect the global temperature, similarly to how the volcano eruptions have a short term cooling effect. But maybe not, these fires probably don't spread it to the same altitudes - so the ash stays more local.