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Benjamin@TechConnectify I was shaking my head reading the announcement. Looking forward to your video for more info but I can't fathom why GM would ditch a standard for a competitor's network that was soon to be updating for that same standard. Unless I have the details wrong
@cordlessmodem It's less bad than it seems on the surface.
Heath Borders@TechConnectify I'm very glad I didn't buy my Bolt assuming that I'd take it on road trips. I've owned an EV for over a year, and I've never fast charged it, and I probably never will.
Kevin Cianfarini@heathborders @TechConnectify I'm really wishing I had gotten a bolt instead of an ID4. I've used fast charging....3, maybe 4 times in two years? It would have been cheaper and used less battery resources.
Bersl@TechConnectify I imagine a lot of money changed hands, and that the deal includes copious mentioning of Supercharger access in Ford's advertising.
If so, this is gonna be extra obnoxious.
Steve Scott@TechConnectify Remember, Tesla started with Tesla connectors in the UK and Europe, then (force) adopted CCS.
Over time dropped the Tesla connector on the Superchargers and everybody with an older Model S and X had to get an adapter. And the world didn't end.. Some people need to put an adapter in their glovebox.
I also don't get the fetish for the Tesla connector vs CCS. It's attached to a station, I don't care about the connector. The charger just needs to work...
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And that's the crux of the matter why EA gave such a bad rep to CCS1
And that's the crux of the matter why EA gave such a bad rep to CCS1
Keiko@TechConnectify I like the "distortion field" you talk about around Tesla stuff (I agree somewhat, BTW) - It makes me think there's a similar distortion field around people who like Apple products. Like Tesla, there's good and bad things about their products, but Apple fans make them out to be this absolute level of perfection, and everything else is so woefully inferior, that it's just garbage. In the same way Tesla fans bug you, Apple fans bug me.
BTW, I use a MacBook Pro for work all day long, and a Windows PC at home, so I have a lot of continual exposure to at least 1 major Apple product.
geg2048@TechConnectify
fom a usability standpoint this is rediculus i dont want to think how many people will drive to a random charing sation only to not be able to charge. because they do not know they need an adapter.
Is the tesla network so much better?
at least in my country there are way more public fast chargers than teslas
fom a usability standpoint this is rediculus i dont want to think how many people will drive to a random charing sation only to not be able to charge. because they do not know they need an adapter.
Is the tesla network so much better?
at least in my country there are way more public fast chargers than teslas
Paul Sahner@TechConnectify Really appreciate you making this video so quickly. I've always enjoyed your perspective on EVs. Measured, informative, and entertaining. My wife and I watched many of your videos as well as those from 8-Bit Guy last year when deciding to make the jump to our EV6.
Mintz🍹🦌@TechConnectify Good points there, one of my biggest concerns is the possible death of other charging networks. They kind of suck now, so it's also sort of their fault. I feel like more companies using NACS just hastens the likelihood of other networks just being completely ignored.
Mike Hicks@TechConnectify I saw a commenter there said it'll basically become CCS with a new plug, and I hope that's essentially true. If the original J1772 power pins had been beefier, it probably could have been updated with DC and this wouldn't be a big deal, but having those extra 2 hanging below just rubs enough of the C-suite people the wrong way, I guess.
I'm just anxious about Tesla/Elon potentially gaining inordinate power from it, but I hope that's a misplaced worry
@mulad Yes, that seems to be with what's happening. My read is this: Ford and GM say current owners can use an adapter. That means in short order Tesla will be rolling out new comms boards to essentially all of their stations for that to work. I can't see Ford or GM having deep enough software integrations to teach their cars to speak Tesla, so I figure it's gotta be Superchargers are taught CCS-ese.
If that's what "NACS" becomes... fine
@mulad and once Tesla rolls out that hardware, my money is on them opening up the network to anybody with the " charge a non-Tesla" option in their app.
I think the biggest question mark now is whether they bother continuing with the magic dock, or if they're just going to sell adapters
Sam@TechConnectify a great video. I share your views on the connector and standardization of EVSEs. I suppose it is wise to have a unified connector, and at least we will have ✨dongles✨.
Ry@TechConnectify I think Tesla saw the writing on the wall. This would be one of the last years where they can offer their charging network as a benefit to other manufacturers. Any later and they would be the one swapping as CCS becomes more common.
Tom Forsyth@TechConnectify "I love standards. I love the wooshing sound they make as they fly by" - Douglas Tanenbaum
joe🏳️⚧️@TechConnectify HES NOT IN FRONT OF HIS BACKGROUND AND HES NOT BEHIND THE TABLE, THIS ISNT RIGHT
Jimmy@TechConnectify I’m not so sure that a generic Tesla Supercharger to CCS will exist. You only get to use the Supercharger if your CEO goes in Twitter Spaces with Elon. I’m sure a generic NACS to CCS1 adapter could be built, but it wouldn’t work with Superchargers, at least not without special blessing.
Tilde Lowengrimm@TechConnectify Thanks for making this video so quickly! As soon as I heard the news, I was looking forward to your informed & thoughtful take — tangents & rants & all. I really appreciate the work you do to digest these multi-faceted topics and make them accessible. 💜
Stoneskipper32@TechConnectify was so hoping you'd have something to say!!
@TechConnectify thanks for kitty show!