David CarrollWill you be ordering an Apple #VisionPro headset? Please boost for reach.
Day 1
Holiday 2024
Eventually, reluctantly
Never
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If the price of #VisionPro or a variant were to drop to the cost of a subsidized smartphone in your local market, please take the poll again.
Day 1 of subsidized price
Subsidized Holiday 202X
Never unless open source
Never. Couldn’t pay me.
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Chad Geidel@profcarroll E: depends on the software.
I want this thing and today's price seems reasonable, but not for "Minority Report Spreadsheets" or "Personal Home Theater."
Serenus@profcarroll I think the price is going to make it a tough sell. It’s too expensive to move in bulk as an entertainment device, and I’m not sure it offers enough in terms of productivity to sell as a work device at that price.
If they got it down to even the cost of a laptop, I think there might be something there. At double the price, I suspect this is going to end up like the Newton.
@Serenus pls take my second poll if you haven’t already that factors in a price reduction à la smartphones https://federate.social/@profcarroll/110493696384298424
David Carroll (@[email protected])
If the price of #VisionPro or a variant were to drop to the cost of a subsidized smartphone in your local market, please take the poll again. [ ] Day 1 of subsidized price [ ] Subsidized Holiday 202X [ ] Never unless open source [ ] Never. Couldn’t pay me.
William O'Connell@profcarroll Forgive my ignorance, what is a subsidized smartphone? I've seen phones from like $150 all the way to $1800.
@williamoconnell the cheap ones are probably subsidized and the expensive ones probably aren’t; various things like contract length or trade-in structure the subsidies
@profcarroll Oh like by a carrier. I was thinking you meant subsidized by the government or something. I've only ever bought unlocked phones at retail so I'm not too familiar with carrier pricing; if I was more of an Apple user I'd probably be tempted around $600. I've been thinking about trying the XReal Air for a while but I keep hoping the price will drop.
@williamoconnell just like an iphone the price will be eventually be free for a new customer
Burnt Veggies@profcarroll I picked never. I'm just not keen on wearing a computer on my face. I don't understand the draw personally.
Phil GreerThis is one of those really hard calls. I see how this product could be very useful, but also how it can be abused. The companies that would be most interested in subsidizing the price are also the most likely to abuse it.
Apple gatekeeping the software that can be run upon it will be both good and bad.
My best use case (outside of entertainment) for this product is using it to repair or install stuff. Things like fixing a broken washing machine or repair a bicycle. Open source in the hacker community is how this will happen, because the companies that make these things don't have the incentive to release this kind of software.
Helchose@profcarroll I don't have that kind of discretionary income, but I'd like to rent one and see what it does maybe. Or go to a place where they have them and pay admission or something.
@Helchose in a few years they will be free on service subsidy and of course your local Apple Store will let you try them very soon
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Greg Kaplan@profcarroll I think we need a “day after I tried it at the store” option. But I guess with returns it’s fine to say day one.
Evannakita@profcarroll I picked the third option, but I’m not expecting to be reluctant! I’m just gonna give it a few years so they can improve it and hopefully lower the price. Based on how things went with the Apple Watch, the first generation definitely wasn’t the one to get.
John Infante@profcarroll I think eventually some version of this product. Not reluctantly though. And maybe not the #VisionPro, but maybe like a VisionAir. I think Apple will eventually make something that has mass market appeal and utility and when/if they do, I’m down.
miket330@profcarroll apple sells their shit as a status symbol, made in the same Asian sweat shops as all tech merchandise..GTFOH 3 GRAND!
Beeks@profcarroll I don't care what it is or what it costs, I'll never use an Apple product.
Stephen Battey@profcarroll why are your poll options so biased?
Tom Levenson@profcarroll Voted "never" on this one; holiday purchase on the subsidized one.
Never in this case refers to a $3,500 series zero device. We'll see how I might respond at about gen. 3, with the app space more filled out.
Mike J👹🐀 🤘🏻@tomlevenson @profcarroll The second question is very loaded. I'm a never on the first, but I'm not a "you couldn't pay me." You could pay me. I can't imagine that I would use it if I had one, but if you paid me I'd take it. I can't imagine buying one, even if it was cheap, but I'm not angry about its existence.
I don't hate the idea of the hardware, but I haven't seen any interesting use cases that I would use at home.
@mikej @profcarroll I'm intrigued by the system. It sort of solves my problem with my last attempt to dive into VR--the social isolation of the experience.
But with the sustained malice we've seen attack every connected application of computation, I'm worried by something I haven't seen discussed: what hacking possibilities exist in this system. Imagine someone taking control of an AR session. Lots of bad possibilities . Could be sci-fi; I'm not technical enough to tell. But if not--erk.