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Jen SorensenLatest comic on a Delaware town's bill that would allow LLCs and other corporations to vote in local elections:
More info for those interested:
https://www.commoncause.org/delaware/press-release/delaware-house-to-hear-controversial-corporate-voting-rights-bill/
https://www.commoncause.org/delaware/press-release/delaware-house-to-hear-controversial-corporate-voting-rights-bill/
Cassandrich@jensorensen Wow somebody has never heard of Sybil Attacks... š¤¦
dibi58somebody said: "ill believe corporations are people when texas executes one" (corporation)
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Ursidinoj/The Bjornsdottirs@jensorensen the ancient City of London Corporation (referring to the municipal corporation, like a city council), in England, did and does that. Resident corps can appoint people to vote in the corp's name.
It is cursed
@ellenor2000 Didn't know that, seems problematic.
Faisal Misle
London's Secret Mayor who runs The Secret City
@faisal @ellenor2000 Interesting, thanks!
LisPi@ellenor2000 @jensorensen Does there yet happen to be someone representing a few hundred different corps they registered themselves?
StarkRG@lispi314 @ellenor2000 @jensorensen Yet? No. Also a few hundred doesn't seem like enough. I'd say register at least two or three thousand to properly make a difference.
@StarkRG @ellenor2000 @jensorensen Well, my assumption was someone clever-enough to think it up but not rich enough to actually exploit it effectively
@lispi314 @ellenor2000 @jensorensen Eh, it's not actually that expensive. Looks like less than $100 to incorporate. $200,000 might seem like a lot at first, but keep in mind that you're basically buying an entire town.
@lispi314 @ellenor2000 @jensorensen I'd have expected the LLC fees to be quite a bit higher than standard corporate fees.
@ellenor2000 @lispi314 @jensorensen Huh, I thought it provided more protections, hence "limited liability".
@StarkRG @lispi314 @jensorensen ā” Both a corporation and an LLC have limited liability. The LLC has simpler reporting requirements.
@ellenor2000 @lispi314 @jensorensen Right, I get that, I just assumed that something which specifically mentioned being "limited liability" would have more limited liability than the thing which didn't. Seems rather silly to call it that if it isn't.
Jack Lohr@jensorensen Seaford would join Henlopen Acres and Fenwick Island, the two towns that already allow corporations to vote. https://www.delawarepublic.org/politics-government/2023-03-04/seaford-council-considers-allowing-businesses-to-vote-in-local-elections
CrazyMyra@jensorensen This explains why Delaware's so popular for PB LLCs
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Samhain Night@jensorensen If corporations are people, how come they never go to jail?
Fardels BearI had to look this up, just to be sure it wasn't from the Onion. Democracy goes to Delaware to die.
@riggbeck Having trouble getting through the paywall to read that article, unfortunately. But yep, it's real.
Christian Kent@jensorensen Kind of curious why this rubicon hasn't been crossed already ā¦ what's stopped it?
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@ckent @jensorensen it was done in City of Sydney years ago. Not sure if itās still in action, though. Note I have to go checkā¦
Huh! Still a thing: https://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/elections/non-residential-register
@europlus @jensorensen I think they tried and yet the popular candidate who'd been there forever still won. They tried to boot her out by rigging the system and still couldn't.
Thing is, that was done by tenancy and not by "citizenship", where you could dangerously begin giving votes per share, or dollar, or anything ā even if it's "a whole company", those are definitely cheap to make.
@ckent @jensorensen it was started well before Clover. I remember it happening when the DTP company I worked for in ā87-ā90 got to vote. I did Frank Sartorās original campaign material while working at that company. l still have copies of some.
@europlus @jensorensen Wow. Well I think we can learn something if we can understand why this hasn't been tried (or succeeded) here or anywhere else, yet? It's either a story of what we have to lose, or the hard work others have done to defend.
@jensorensen Seems easier just to make ballot stuffing legal. What stops me from opening up 2000 corporations in the lead up to an election, vote as every single one, and then shut them all down afterwards?