David HoGeneral rule: Any company that says it’s carbon neutral is lying.
TransitBiker@davidho but what about the tree planting scams! Think of the seedlings!
Martin@davidho Fair enough. Let's celebrate the exceptions. They are? (Genuinely interested in recommendations)
Sören@martin @davidho I think it depends on the market. An air line or energy company isn’t going to be carbon neutral unless it literally doesn’t use oil-based fuel any more.
But, say, a tech company that runs its own data centers that run on renewable energy? That’s probably a lot closer to the goal, realistically.
Aron Roberts@chucker @martin @davidho One reason some data centers are located near hydroelectric generating stations, for instance.
For offsetting household GHG emissions, one option to look at is Wren.co. They’re at least sincerely trying to carefully vet their offsets projects. As a result, most of theirs aren’t the typical “forest protection, afforestation, and/or reforestation” projects one sees widely elsewhere.
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Paul Houle@davidho so long as “nature based” credits are on the market; conservation and restoration are great ideas but you can’t offset a flight you take once with a land use change that has to be maintained for 10,000 years
Stuart Blair@davidho I used to purchase carbon offsets for my flight through my airline and then discovered that the voluntary markets aren't worth the paper they're not even written on.
Nowadays, I offset using related carbon futures markets that diminish the available pool of CO2 pollution allowances for California, EU, and UK industries. Much harder to fake and you get to profit from holding them as the price rises.
Juan I. Jorquera@davidho lying and flying...
JohnW@davidho Yeah exactly. The Carbon offset system was pretty much BS to start with, full of holes.
Ellie@davidho Kinda surprised more companies aren't just claiming to be Carbon Positive and pretend that's a good thing.