@rubecube12 @plutus @johnserwach Will be interesting. He can tell the loons, "Look, I'm in your corner, but notice what we have to work with. You can force me out, but who do you think is next? Someone who thinks you're rubbish."
The people who can take him out don't have the votes to put one of theirs in.
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
They put a motion of no confidence. Dems join. He's out. And the then they get more concessions from the next speaker. Just like what happened with Paul Ryan getting elected
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
That's up to moderates to figure out. Nobody has the votes without their support
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
They are just after concessions. Moderates have already said they won't make a dem backed (problem solvers) speaker
@johnserwach @ForeignSubstance @rubecube12
Peter Thiel
https://twitter.com/ricburton/status/1644270785358602241?s=20
“Peter Thiel was incredibly weird with me when I was at Stripe in 2012 I asked him an interesting set of questions about PayPal & he guided the conversation to totally different areas I was 23 years old & just wanted to learn from him People told me afterwards what he wanted”
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
I have a sneaky feelin they may start with Cleveland. Seems like an obvious target.
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
There are only 2 things from Cleveland Danny - steamers and dreamers, which one are you?
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
Taking laps after being wrong for 5 months and 3000 NQ points lmao. The wizard of fintwit https://twitter.com/dampedspring/status/1663587695426142228?s=46&t=myUg8E_NfUxKRXrtk0UUnw
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance
I can’t believe Yuk didn’t crosspost this over here or at the very least tag me!! You don’t love me anymore, do you ? 😂
@johnserwach @ForeignSubstance @plutus
Total disrespect for the decorum of the house. Republicans should be ashamed
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
My take - I know you will disagree with me but so be it.
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
No voting for cuts unless majority of republicans vote for cuts. Just like TARP
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Let's take the win for Biden and stop AOCing...
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
If you vote for cuts and republicans don't vote for cuts. It will be labeled democrat cuts and will be a nuise around Dems next election. These are good cuts. Let gops vote for them
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You think dem constituents care that much - no bro
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Every add. Dems voted to cut this program. Dems voted to cut that program. Need republicans to vote for cuts and then hang the cuts around republicans. Run against the cuts and say we will bring these programs back I. Reconciliation
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Dragging it on will be blamed on dems more - that's how shite works - soccer moms always blame dems first
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Has to pass house. Republicans have majority of house. If they can't get the votes that's on them. A la TARP
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
They have a majority of republicans?
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
Dems won't vote for it unless republicans vote for it
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
Stupid. Bad strategy. McCarthy gets fired then
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Less entitled older people make do with what they have not youngsters who want everything
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
I've seen this play out before. Every advertisment will be about how Dems voted to cut these programs and how Dems are heartless
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You think McCarthy is that dumb that he doesn't think by seeing this through he doesn't have the support to stay on as speaker - plz Danny plz.
Teabaggers are all show
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
He cares about being speaker than passing the debt ceiling by a country mile - no way in hell this hasn't already been pre-planned with everyone.
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @plutus
It’s over, Dan—
For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die.
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Short termism is never a good strategy. The easy win gets traded for the long term loss
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
What you are worried about are cosmetic - cuts can easily be made up by remunerating via backchannels.
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @rubecube12
They are not cuts, they are merely not keeping pace with inflation however the inflation has passed so- it’s just an illusion—-
"I am a part of all that I have met
To [Tho] much is taken, much abides
That which we are, we are --
One equal temper of heroic hearts
Strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
The market proced in a lot more cuts than actually occured in 2021. Inflation will roar back. Fiscal impulse did not die
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You want to give KM the symbolic victory so he can get magaturds inline - it's meaningless; also gives Biden more leverage in further negotiations
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
KM won't be around in a month. Will be negotiating with someone else
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance
He’s not going anywhere
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Dems are going to vote for him? To remain speaker?
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
If he has 150 GOP to vote for hte bill in the house he doesn't have enough support as speaker - what you smokin in Cleveland
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
GOP* not good
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
No need to debate Dan - Kevin McCarthy is the last person in Congress who will jeopardize his career for anything or anyone -just remember that
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
They don't lose the power. Dems can't put anyone in. It would just be votes on new speakers until you 50+1. Until a Paul Ryan comes around who gives them more concessions
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
This isn't Germany where you need to have replacement with a majority to succeed in motion of no confidence. Just need a majority to remove. Provleded motion. Anyone can initiate.
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
I get it Danny you are a socialist at heart - the perpetual struggle is better than getting to a compromised solution. It's fine
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
McCarthy is toast
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @plutus
Who would give more concessions that the rest of the cays us would accept ? No one.
@plutus @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
This is 3-D Chess not checkers. You throw out McCarthy and you can’t get a replacement- who’s the country gonna blame? We call that “overplaying your hand”
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
2 republicans have already said they will do a motion to vacate. Just needs 3 more
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Don't you see-- nobody behaves rationally. Is all a bunch of crazy people telling themselves stories and making emotive noises. Banging on the table. That's all language is
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
GOP wants a deal so stonks will crater - marinate Danny - that's the upside for them.
Politically, it's a win for Biden.
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Much higher dem ratio of Yea - por que? You won't answer that will you
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
These are republican cuts not one more dem should vote for them
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Dollar liquidity is a big issue for our allies - that's why this vote went smoother than anything we've seen in recent memory. Forest for the trees Danny. There were bigger fish to fry.
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
People are much more than sane than you think. The Boebert/Chip Roy/MTG - have no true ideology - it's all about self-serving. Let's get a grip on reality.
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Everyone. Emotive noises all of it
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance
If you blow your wad too soon you just look stupid. They can’t torpedo McCarthy … yet. There’s no gain there.
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
They get someone who is not a milk towel who is willing to give away the farm in negotiations
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @rubecube12
Ok, give me a name who you think could get enough votes ? Just one even
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
That's for the leadership process. Nobody knew who there's merry was until Boris Johnson stabbed the front runner in the back
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
Nobody knew who Paul Ryan was
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
We didnt have to make any cuts
https://bird.makeup/users/chadpergram/statuses/1664107347470434304
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance
There’s two problems, finding someone who wants the job with these rules etc and someone that both sides can agree on.
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
You may think it's unfair but this only hurts the dems. How is this crap condoned by local govts. So needless to pander... https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1663949711043067914?s=20
Moderate soccer moms will only point the finger at liberals
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
Then I guess they'll be doing speaker votes until the next election
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