ForeignSubstance ✅@rubecube12 @johnserwach @plutus I'm thinking if they go the platinum coin option ... they ought to make it a quadrillion dollar coin.
Daniel Rubin ✅@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
No you do it by enough to extend the debt ceiling for a few months (100 bil) and then tell republicans you can devalue the currency (something they hate more than debt) or you can pass a clean bill. And keep doing until they pass a clean bill
@rubecube12 @plutus @johnserwach IMHO, devaluation, or even the threat thereof, would be a political mistake of historic proportion. It's something any demagogue would love.
John Serwach ✅@ForeignSubstance @rubecube12 @plutus what about making a shoe ? This shoe is legal tender for all debts public and private. Value, 900 trillion dollars - they could be ruby slippers.
I would support that.
@johnserwach @ForeignSubstance @plutus
Get vol to post his shoes first
Plutus@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Can someone please respond to why teabaggers are being so compliant on this debt ceiling vote? There is no way there isn't more bottom-feeding drama or ulterior motive about letting Biden have this win and it is a win.
@johnserwach @ForeignSubstance @rubecube12
That's the thing there's no way McCarthy doesn't have a sense of what they are doing
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
McCarthy will be forced out of speaker if he gave away too much
@rubecube12 @plutus @johnserwach Will be interesting. He can tell the loons, "Look, I'm in your corner, but notice what we have to work with. You can force me out, but who do you think is next? Someone who thinks you're rubbish."
The people who can take him out don't have the votes to put one of theirs in.
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
They put a motion of no confidence. Dems join. He's out. And the then they get more concessions from the next speaker. Just like what happened with Paul Ryan getting elected
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @rubecube12 yeah but they have to get someone that’s electable- no one’s gonna grovel like Kevin did
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
That's up to moderates to figure out. Nobody has the votes without their support
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
They are just after concessions. Moderates have already said they won't make a dem backed (problem solvers) speaker
@rubecube12 @plutus @johnserwach This is the type of problem that could even see an open split in the party.
@johnserwach @ForeignSubstance @rubecube12
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@plutus @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance so, just spitballing here- how many years until a terrorist group successfully launches a drone strike on a U.S. City ?
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
I have a sneaky feelin they may start with Cleveland. Seems like an obvious target.
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
There are only 2 things from Cleveland Danny - steamers and dreamers, which one are you?
@johnserwach @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
Taking laps after being wrong for 5 months and 3000 NQ points lmao. The wizard of fintwit https://twitter.com/dampedspring/status/1663587695426142228?s=46&t=myUg8E_NfUxKRXrtk0UUnw
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance
I can’t believe Yuk didn’t crosspost this over here or at the very least tag me!! You don’t love me anymore, do you ? 😂
@johnserwach @ForeignSubstance @plutus
Total disrespect for the decorum of the house. Republicans should be ashamed
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
My take - I know you will disagree with me but so be it.
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
No voting for cuts unless majority of republicans vote for cuts. Just like TARP
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Let's take the win for Biden and stop AOCing...
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
If you vote for cuts and republicans don't vote for cuts. It will be labeled democrat cuts and will be a nuise around Dems next election. These are good cuts. Let gops vote for them
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You think dem constituents care that much - no bro
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Every add. Dems voted to cut this program. Dems voted to cut that program. Need republicans to vote for cuts and then hang the cuts around republicans. Run against the cuts and say we will bring these programs back I. Reconciliation
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Dragging it on will be blamed on dems more - that's how shite works - soccer moms always blame dems first
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Has to pass house. Republicans have majority of house. If they can't get the votes that's on them. A la TARP
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
They have a majority of republicans?
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
Dems won't vote for it unless republicans vote for it
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
Stupid. Bad strategy. McCarthy gets fired then
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Less entitled older people make do with what they have not youngsters who want everything
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
I've seen this play out before. Every advertisment will be about how Dems voted to cut these programs and how Dems are heartless
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You think McCarthy is that dumb that he doesn't think by seeing this through he doesn't have the support to stay on as speaker - plz Danny plz.
Teabaggers are all show
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
He cares about being speaker than passing the debt ceiling by a country mile - no way in hell this hasn't already been pre-planned with everyone.
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @plutus
It’s over, Dan—
For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die.
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
Short termism is never a good strategy. The easy win gets traded for the long term loss
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
What you are worried about are cosmetic - cuts can easily be made up by remunerating via backchannels.
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @rubecube12
They are not cuts, they are merely not keeping pace with inflation however the inflation has passed so- it’s just an illusion—-
"I am a part of all that I have met
To [Tho] much is taken, much abides
That which we are, we are --
One equal temper of heroic hearts
Strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
The market proced in a lot more cuts than actually occured in 2021. Inflation will roar back. Fiscal impulse did not die
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You want to give KM the symbolic victory so he can get magaturds inline - it's meaningless; also gives Biden more leverage in further negotiations
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
KM won't be around in a month. Will be negotiating with someone else
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance
He’s not going anywhere
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
Dems are going to vote for him? To remain speaker?
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
That's a primariable offense
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
If he has 150 GOP to vote for hte bill in the house he doesn't have enough support as speaker - what you smokin in Cleveland
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach a motion to vacate the chair only requires one member. 5 good members plus all the Dems voting to vacate. Means he's out and you have a new speakers race. The same way Boehner got kicked out
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
GOP* not good
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
No need to debate Dan - Kevin McCarthy is the last person in Congress who will jeopardize his career for anything or anyone -just remember that
@rubecube12 @plutus @ForeignSubstance if they opt him and can’t replace@him they lose their power. It’s a great threat but shitty in practice
@johnserwach @plutus @ForeignSubstance
They don't lose the power. Dems can't put anyone in. It would just be votes on new speakers until you 50+1. Until a Paul Ryan comes around who gives them more concessions
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
This isn't Germany where you need to have replacement with a majority to succeed in motion of no confidence. Just need a majority to remove. Provleded motion. Anyone can initiate.
@rubecube12 @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
I get it Danny you are a socialist at heart - the perpetual struggle is better than getting to a compromised solution. It's fine
@ForeignSubstance @johnserwach @plutus
McCarthy is toast
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @plutus
Who would give more concessions that the rest of the cays us would accept ? No one.
@plutus @rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance
This is 3-D Chess not checkers. You throw out McCarthy and you can’t get a replacement- who’s the country gonna blame? We call that “overplaying your hand”
@plutus @johnserwach @ForeignSubstance
2 republicans have already said they will do a motion to vacate. Just needs 3 more
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @rubecube12 who cares ? Don’t you see- they literally can’t do it. There is no weaker acceptable speaker than McCarthy.
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @johnserwach
Then I guess they'll be doing speaker votes until the next election
@ForeignSubstance @plutus @rubecube12 good - let them - when Biden has 300 seats in the house we can get shit done
@rubecube12 @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
You wanna bet? I will give you 10 to 1 odds. Magaturds have no one - none zilch
@plutus @ForeignSubstance @johnserwach
They don't need anyone. This isn't Germany. They just need 5 and Dems to join