The “automatically remove books from the school library when a parent objects” movement in one quote:

Context: from an article explaining that this woman — who objected to a poem read at Biden’s inauguration being available in the school library - also “accidentally” posted stuff about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

https://www.jta.org/2023/05/24/united-states/the-florida-mom-who-got-amanda-gormans-poem-restricted-says-shes-sorry-for-promoting-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion

The Florida mom who sought to ban Amanda Gorman’s poem says she’s sorry for promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

The activist apologized to JTA and to “the Jewish community” for sharing the antisemitic forgery on her Facebook page.

Jewish Telegraphic Agency

@Popehat Her saying that she didn’t read the Elders of Zion and only reacted to the word communism is an honest admission of how rightwingers work these days.

They can’t understand context but look for key trigger words to make assumptions about what they’re reading. That’s why you can routinely debunk them using their own sources because they project their beliefs onto the source material. And if they’re told a source says something they won’t even check the original but imagine they read it.

@biobrain @Popehat

They think having an opinion is enough to require the world to conform to that opinion.

@biobrain @Popehat

Debunking someone has far fewer practical benefits than people imagine.

@staidwinnow I think that depends on how good someone is at debunking. Most people just aren’t very good at it especially if they make the mistake of including insults that people use to deflect from their mistakes, but I’ve found it to be fairly effective.

People will rarely admit they’re wrong in the heat of a debate. The main objective is to get them to doubt their sources and to really think about what they’re saying instead of repeating talking points.

@biobrain

How good has the debunking been on Trump's 30,000+ lies and misleading falsehoods while he was in office?

Forget that, how good has been the debunking of "The 2020 election was stolen"?

I'd say excellent.

Yet, here we are still addressing the "controversy."

When one side refuses to acknowledge the facts, debunking is not going to convince them.

There are no referees most of the time anyway.

@staidwinnow
First off, you’re describing a minority of Americans who gets outsized importance because they’re loud.

And yeah, most people aren’t good at debunking, especially not anyone in the corporate media. They consider fact checking to only be done in specific segments, not all the time.

And more importantly, the people who believe these things don’t listen to them anyway. But I’ve seen it work personally because I’m good at engaging with people. You can’t win if you don’t try.

@staidwinnow @biobrain @Popehat Agreed. Conspiracy theorists and antisemitists don't become better people when you prove them wrong. They just decide that you're part of the conspiracy.

@biobrain @Popehat A child's bare bottom is shown in an illustration in a story about getting ready for bedtime.

The picture is part of a series of illustrations: He's drinking a cup of hot chocolate, brushing his teeth, and being read a bedtime story as he's tucked under covers.

"Pornography!" the pearl-clutchers yell.

The child's bare bottom is only shown as his mom is drying him off after giving him a bath.

Context matters.

@biobrain @Popehat That WaPo article about book banners said they went to Amazon and looked at the books recommended alongside the books they wanted banned to find new targets for banning. They are trying so hard to be offended they have to seek it out.
@biobrain @Popehat “they project their beliefs onto the source” is probably the most accurate explanation yet.

@biobrain @Popehat

so true, but what could be done against that?

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