Aral BalkanMay 24, 2023

Elon Musk is launching the presidential campaign of Ron DeSantis, the man working to make The Handmaid’s Tale a reality in the US.

At least the Germans had guns to their heads if they opposed the Nazis. What exactly is your excuse for continuing to support this man and his social network?

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Show threadNafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦May 25, 2023
@aral Handmaid's Tale and Nazis are a pretty mixed metaphor.
Show threadclacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛May 25, 2023
@nafnlaus @aral Are they really? It's all about control.
Show threadNafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦May 25, 2023
@clacke @aral um, no. It's abour religious extremism vs. extreme racism. Nazi Germany wasn't anything like The Handmaid's Tale. Hitler wasn't even very religious (though the Nazis had sort of an alliance with the Catholic church.. though also dabbled in paganism). And contrarily, The Handmaid's Tale wasn't about a conspiracy that Jews are a mind virus causing races to ignore interests essential to their survival in an upcoming resource panic.
Show threadclacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛May 25, 2023

@nafnlaus @aral They are not the same, but they are not unrelated. "Aryan" women were supposed to be ovens for baking the next generation of "pure" soldiers.

Fascism is about the subservience of the individual to the state, whether the dominant tool is racism, sexism or class war.

Show threadNafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦May 25, 2023

@clacke @aral They were not forced into it.

If to you the essence of Naziism and The Handmaid's Tale is both "Women are encouraged to raise large families", then you have no clue about either of them (but *especially * Naziism*).

Show threadclacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

@nafnlaus If you believe the Nazi breeding programs were simply about "encouraging" women, then there isn't much more to say.

@aral

May 25, 2023 at 4:58pmWeb
Show threadNafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦May 26, 2023

@clacke @aral Okay, if a person ***actually accepts facts*** then there isn't much more to say indeed.

Nazis were NOT mass forcing women to have children. Any assertion otherwise is 100% ahistorical. They encouraged women to marry with propaganda, awards (such as the Mother's Cross), social organizations (such as NS-Frauenschaft), etc. And even still, women worked - just in "traditional feminine jobs" (nurses, teachers, secretaries, etc).

Show threadNafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦May 26, 2023
@clacke @aral And even then, there were prominent single women. For example, though she eventually married (briefly) in 1944, the single Leni Riefenstahl was the most famous film propagandist of the Nazi regime, directing such infamous films as The Triumph of Will. Or for a more extreme example, the youngest woman to ever be executed under British law was Irma Grese, a brutal and sadistic Auschwitz guard, sentenced to death at the Belsen trial.
Show threadclacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛May 26, 2023
@nafnlaus Your analysis is that Handmaid's Tale and Nazism are a mixed metaphor, because Nazis empowered women to become propagandists and death camp guards?
Show threadNafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦May 26, 2023
@clacke Because they were *entirely different unrelated things*.