Dr. Elizabeth Sawin✨The "economy" will shrink to fit within the earth systems of which is it a subsidiary. The status quo wants it to seem like that's the debate, but ya' can't debate physics, biogeochemistry, and ecology. The debate is about how much of that shrinking is chosen vs imposed and whether the shrinking subscribes to just and ethical principles or not.
Keep your eye on the ball
The big watery jewel-like one in the blackness of space.
🚲@bethsawin There’s a great intro physics textbook that focuses on the very real physical constraints, if you haven’t seen it: https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/980
Energy and Human Ambitions on a Finite Planet - Open Textbook Library
Where is humanity going? How realistic is a future of fusion and space colonies? What constraints are imposed by physics, by resource availability, and by human psychology? Are default expectations grounded in reality?
Steven Bodzin@bethsawin or you can be like Erdogan and give "amnesty" for seismic codes...and see what happens
People put way too much faith in the quasi-marxist idea that everything is ideology, everything is constructed
Wegenstein Friedrich@bethsawin
It is a question of distribution of labor and income. We will not be able to mangage that turn without a fair distribution.
It is a question of distribution of labor and income. We will not be able to mangage that turn without a fair distribution.
Weird 2 - Electric Boogaloo@bethsawin not just that. It's also about how much shinking we risk, if we keep denying the need to change course.
@bethsawin Is like some broke guy with gambling addiction. The longer they denying the reality, the worse their situation they get.
We're now at the stage "hmm, maybe we should start looting gas stations for money to gamble with"
Max Ernst@bethsawin isn't this a limit on resource consumption though? Like couldn't we have a huge music industry or something like that, that isn't dependent on exploiting the planet?
@Strasbourgdispatch yes, a limit to throughput of energy and materials, but not a limit on creativity and development (hard to fit it all in a toot!)