flexghost.Teachers pay taxes.
Nurses pay taxes.
Bus drivers pay taxes.
You pay taxes.
The Mormon church is a real estate holding company with a Political Action Committees as a hobby.
Tax them.
Rory@flexghost You would think that they would be using that money to help those in need... Instead, I'm sure that money is going to right-wing hacks... with the promise that if republicans win, those in dire need lose... Are we sure that this Mormon place is a church, and not a MAGA town hall?
Karl Oscar Weber@customer228 @flexghost Hi friends.
I’m LDS, and I looked into this fund. The articles/whistleblower are kind of disingenuous. The church has a savings fund that they’ve been building for something like 50 years.
The church spends billions a year for basically charity stuff. Plus the church has a really comprehensive private welfare system: Food, Clothes, Furniture, Rent.
It’s just kinda silly.
Brian Beeler@Kowfm @flexghost "I’m LDS, and I looked into this fund. The articles/whistleblower are kind of disingenuous."
How are they disingenuous? Please be specific. From what I've read they seem credible. The whistleblower has submitted proof tithing funds were transferred to Beneficial Financial Group (a Church owned company) in 2009 to support it during the 2008 housing crash. That is a direct violation of US Federal law.
Do you think Australia's tax fraud lawsuit is also disingenuous?
@brianbeeler @Kowfm because he doesn’t like what they’re saying therefore it’s fake news.
I wonder how disingenuous all the reporting of LDS sexual abuse of children and adults are?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/23b-awarded-sex-abuse-lawsuit-named-mormon-church-98916403
https://www.insider.com/mormon-church-set-up-help-line-to-bury-abuse-accusations-2022-8
@flexghost "because he doesn’t like what they’re saying therefore it’s fake news."
"It's better to have questions we can't answer than answers we can't question."
Much of what drives the zealots in the Mormon church can be explained with TMT (Terror Management Theory) which is the fear of death governs all human actions.
While Christians believe in a paradise Mormons believe they'll also get to become gods and goddesses of their own planet and give birth to billions of "spirit children".
@brianbeeler well said. I won’t even go into their barbaric conversion therapy. Just repulsive. Those blank wide eye smiles from their cult members are hiding sharp teeth
"Conversion therapy" is torture. Gay folk need love, compassion, understanding and to be treated like everyone else. Not torture.
Where I last lived was very close to a 220 foot statue of Quán Thế Âm Bồ Tát aka Guan Yin who started off as a man, Avalokiteśvara, in India and by the time she hit the Pacific coast was a woman. Kinda like the Lou Reed song. =)
A society with a 220 foot statue of the transgender Bodhisattva of Compassion is an enlightened society.
@brianbeeler treating the LGBTQ community is anathema to American Christians and Mormons
@flexghost @brianbeeler I don’t think it’s fake news. I think it’s disingenuous because it removes nuance from the actual situation.
I don’t think the reporting of mismanagement of Sexual abuse claims are disingenuous at all. That’s some fucked up shit and that has to be taken care of.
@Kowfm @flexghost "I think it’s disingenuous because it removes nuance from the actual situation."
Please explain your thoughts on the various levels of "nuance" concerning Mormon church leaders engaging in pedophilia. Maybe it's sometimes acceptable since Joseph Smith had multiple 14 year wives?
Everyone reading this thread knows you won't answer my question and will just change the subject. Why? Because that's all you do. My advice is walk away. No one's buying what you're selling.
@brianbeeler @flexghost I'm sorry, you may be confused. My message was a response to different thoughts as sent by Flexghost. Please re read my previous message with that in mind.
Just like I said you would you changed the subject. Please answer my question and direct that answer to me.
@flexghost @brianbeeler Yeah I didn’t say that we need to define abuse. Or that there is nuance there.