Marco ArmentApr 17, 2023

“[sideloading] would allow customers to download apps without needing to use the App Store, which would mean developers wouldn't need to pay Apple's 15 to 30 percent fees.” https://www.macrumors.com/2023/04/17/app-sideloading-support-coming-ios-17/

Not a chance. Apple will just use another method to collect their "commission”: https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitlement/

Remember: Tim Cook views our customers as THEIR customers, our sales as THEIR sales, and the 30% as what they rightfully deserve for gracing us with a platform that we provide no other value to.

iOS 17 to Support App Sideloading to Comply With European Regulations

Apple in iOS 17 will for the first time allow iPhone users to download apps hosted outside of its official App Store, according to Bloomberg's...

MacRumors
Show threadGene Thomas Apr 17, 2023

@marcoarment
Sideloading will create an entirely new level of support issues. Unsuspecting older users will have apps installed, often by their children and grandchildren. There will also be issues with ads claiming better experience if one replaces one app with another—“just click here” (looking at you google.)

When there are issues the users will descend upon the carrier stores which will in turn pass them off to Apple Stores, also unable to help them.

Show threadDGPMay 10, 2023

@RedStateExile with respect, this isn’t what happens on the Mac, and it’s not even what happens on Android, where sideloading is easy but locked behind a simple switch. Sideloading does not mean no sandboxing. Sideloaded apps don’t suddenly have root and take over your phone. They’re apps.

If old people come in with 24 fake apps sideloaded by Junior, Apple will… help then delete them and show them the “allow apps to be downloaded from scary third parties” switch and admonish them to keep it turned off.

Show threadGene Thomas 

@dgp We are not talking about the Mac, which by the way has more security problems than iOS due installs outside the App Store.

(I thought I had posted this “back when”)

May 15, 2023 at 8:21pmMona for iPad
Show threadDGPMay 16, 2023
@RedStateExile again, security problems on iOS hinge entirely on sandboxing, not on Apple gatekeeping apps with anticompetitive rules and a 30% revshare. The two don’t have to be bundled. Apple just pretends they’re related to imply that the App Store protects you when it most definitely doesn’t, for instance, it openly embraces scam apps with absurdly high subscription fees as well as the #1 seller, casino games for children.
Show threadGene Thomas May 16, 2023
@dgp I was _only_ talking about the impact it will have on the supper side.
Show threadGene Thomas May 16, 2023

@dgp

https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/05/16/apple-blocked-over-2-billion-in-fraudulent-transactions-17-million-bogus-apps-in-2022?utm_medium=rss

Apple blocked over $2 billion in fraudulent transactions & 1.7 million bogus apps in 2022

Apple has successfully prevented over $2 billion of potentially fraudulent transactions within the App Store while intensifying efforts to reject suspicious apps.

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Show threadDGPMay 17, 2023

@RedStateExile ok. If you believe that what they’re actually blocking is the major threat I guess you’re satisfied with that. The way I see it, most of the fraud going on is going on right in the open, because it’s technically ok under apple’s terms, due to the fact they make so many billions of dollars off of it.

But go ahead and enjoy Apple’s perfect benevolent, definitely-not-anticompetitive rule if that’s what you think it is. I’ll stop engaging in this thread.