@Em0nM4stodon
What a silly argument.

No one is banning encryption. Demanding platforms stop crimes, even if encrypted, is no different than cops stopping crimes behind closed doors.

A crime behind any veil is still a crime and should be stopped.

@patrizia @Em0nM4stodon
Really?

Something must work 100% of the time, even if that facilitates crime, to be of *any* value?

Well then, going back to the door analogy. Let's get rid of doors bc police have a habit of breaking them down during raids. SMH

@patrizia @Em0nM4stodon
Yes, this exception applies to all. But no right is absolutely unrestricted, not speech, guns, life, etc.

If the exception is limited, proportional, necessary for the common good, then the exception proves the rule.

@TCatInReality @patrizia @Em0nM4stodon Let me give you a real life example - I live in Paris, we're getting biometric video surveillance because "Olympics".

I live between two landmarks and half the government in between.

The system gets triggered by some real mundane shit like walking too fast, hanging around in an area "too long", or "acting suspiciously". All of which I can do by going to the supermarket or sitting in a park.

1 / ?

@TCatInReality @patrizia @Em0nM4stodon if I ping that enough times, I can probably find myself with a Fiche S (basically the entire state will keep an eye on me).

This can mean that I can't participate in protests - which is my right to do in a free society.

I will have problems with the police at every encounter.

I could find that my right to live in this country are taken away when I come to renew my documents.

All this because I because I don't get my groceries delivered 2 / 2

@TCatInReality @patrizia @Em0nM4stodon 3 / 3

Breaking it for everybody makes everybody a criminal with serious consequences if the system fucks it up.

Which it will, there are already stories of people who have been booted from Google for having perfectly normal photos of their own children or in one case, sending a photo to a doctor to diagnose the seriousness of a rash - because of a default setting in Google Photos

@kc @patrizia @Em0nM4stodon
Wow. That sucks

And I bet over the next year they refine the system because the French police don't want to waste time pursuing people who buy their groceries.

I'm not saying there won't be cases of abuse. But your best defense is a democratically responsive government that wants good processes and sane security.