Malcolm Casey
tatostill think it's fucking WILD how many leftists are critical and disbelieve the gov't on everything, but totally buy the "covid is over" narrative
like i'm sorry, you're trusting joe fucking biden on this one?!
pubes with poop on em@charli_gremlin I buy everything Joe Biden tells me to. Joe Biden is the name of my drug dealer. He's awesome.
wauz@charli_gremlin
Well, they also took a lot of the CoViD narrative itself.
There is the fact, that the Sars2-Virus exists and there is CoViD-19 as it's desease, but most of the rest about that is narrative.
There was never reasonable discussion about and 'leftists' took that. Even worse: they helped to block dispute.
After all, they quit to be leftists.
Kevin Kolk@charli_gremlin I’m not sure it’s a COVID is over narrative so much as COVID is forever. We will never put that cat back in the bag, it’s no longer an emergency because it’s now the norm for both society and government.
Shaun 🏳️🌈🍉@Siberian @charli_gremlin Normalising mass death and disability-- in the tens and hundreds of millions-- is not exactly a leftist position.
Red Faster@anarchautist @charli_gremlin We have done so for heart disease and cancer, both of which killed more people last year. Cancer certainly is also in the running for disability as well. COVID is going to join those diseases as a normal cause of death and disability. This isn’t a political position, it’s reality, there isn’t a leftist position - beyond the normal support for medical care for all.
@Siberian @charli_gremlin You're betraying how un-normal this situation is when you have to lump hundreds of diseases (re: cancer) together to surpass the death toll from ONE virus and disease.
No, this is not a normal situation, and it's completely avoidable.
@anarchautist @charli_gremlin As someone personally affected by cancer on multiple occasions I do not see it as hundreds of different diseases. It’s one.
If you truly feel the need to argue brain cancer is a different then lung cancer, different then thyroid cancer… well how many different varieties of COVID are there now? Hundreds?
@Siberian @charli_gremlin OK well you're wrong.
@anarchautist @charli_gremlin Disease is part of the human condition, pandemics are as old as civilization itself. On a whole we have navigated this one fairly well. Not as well as we could have hoped, but not terribly. Spanish Flu killed 21M globally, COVID while deadly is only 1/3 of that.
@Siberian @charli_gremlin One, it's not over yet. Two, you're looking only at reported deaths. The excess deaths during the pandemic are 2-4 times higher than the reported deaths, which is on par (or higher) than the figure you cite despite medical advances.
Three, you're only looking at the acute stage of infection. The acute stages of infection of HIV/AIDS, HPV/cancer, polio, chicken pox/shingles, and EBV/MS are all very mild in comparison to the chronic stages.
Four, you're looking solely at (reported) fatality. You're not considering the impact of debility when 37-49% of infections result in long-covid 4 months later, and a huge loss of quality of life.
No one asked you to simp for a disease.
AlicePaulI’m a “leftist” and nothing in your statement is true.
Ali Fleih@charli_gremlin COVID is NOT over! Thousands of vulnerable people are dying from the disease every week. Declaring the pandemic emergency to have ended is rubbing salt on the wound.
@alifleih are you yelling at me for agreeing with you or...?
Chris Real@charli_gremlin We don't have a right and left wing in the US, we have fascists, socialist nostalgics, and a bureaucratic class that treats techno-capitalism as their religion.
The US is driven by beliefs, not truths. And belief is for people who can't handle truths. So go figure . . .
norm-x@charli_gremlin ummmm...perhaps contrast that number with deep thinkers on the right who claimed covid "never happened..a hoax..."
@norm004 no, we're not going to do a "what about" here to minimize harms done by those on the left because there are other harms done by those on the right. two things can both be bad.
@charli_gremlin there's enough stupidity
about the pandemic to go around...i just get tired of shots at "the left" which is a pretty nebulous target...who and what are you actually trying to ridicule here?
about the pandemic to go around...i just get tired of shots at "the left" which is a pretty nebulous target...who and what are you actually trying to ridicule here?
Zathras@charli_gremlin @donmelton Just got my booster today. What I saw was the government saying it’s not panic time any more, but they are ready to lock down again if they need to.
Mathew Samuel@charli_gremlin
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To me it's one of the most disappointing things that's happened. The complete and utter surrender by most of the 'left' to COVID.
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To me it's one of the most disappointing things that's happened. The complete and utter surrender by most of the 'left' to COVID.