Joshua McKentyMay 7, 2023

It feels like we're ready for a post-blockchain movement, so I've started prototyping this: https://unchaind.org

If you're also ready for the coin-free world, would love your feedback/edits!

(Repo is open source on GitHub as well, so PRs are welcome).

Unchaind.org

Unchaind Alliance: Public Commitment to a Blockchain-free Web Stack

Show threadSam Butler

@jmckenty What is this going to be focused on, specifically? I've been working on something that could be relevant — and I'd love to cooperate/collaborate with others on it and get support:

https://vouchersapp.netlify.app/

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Show threadJoshua McKentyMay 7, 2023
@sambutlerUS at first glance they don't seem to be related to me; we're literally just encouraging people to put a badge on their web apps when they DON'T use blockchain, sort of like what early SSL did.
Show threadSam ButlerMay 7, 2023

@jmckenty Aha makes sense. Might risk creating a bit of a Striessand Effect? It seems implicit/expected that most webapps and websites I'm interacting with are not blockchain based? (and if it was blockchain based, it would probably be heavily promoted as such -- not covert?)

Another thing that comes to mind: opposition is not necessarily a compass. For example, in the unchaind logo, perhaps it could nod to or illustrate some of the different technologies envisioned in the stack — e.g. HTML-oriented development and HATEOS, P2P protocols like socket supply (which is blockchain-adjacent I think, not sure what to think of it), federation and activitypub?

Show threadJoshua McKentyMay 7, 2023

@sambutlerUS Well, the utility of a "certified blockchain free" logo is for the consumer, not other web devs. And, like a GMO-free label, it's intended to assuage concerns that (a) Using this product will contribute to the destruction of the environment, and (b) the data I enter into this app will be irrevocably public sooner or later.

Agree that one would HOPE that most apps wouldn't be blockchain-based... just like you might expect most folks to use SSL where it's needed.

Unchaind isn't targeting an alternate tech stack at all (although I'm working on that elsewhere) - simply a user-facing commitment to avoid popular stupidity.

Show threadJoshua McKentyMay 7, 2023
@sambutlerUS I'm not sure we even need to spend any time explaining WHY we're eschewing blockchain (https://indieweb.social/@web3isgreat does a great job of that already). Maybe just a directory of participating sites is enough?
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Show threadSam ButlerMay 7, 2023

@jmckenty Shared more thoughts/questions here — not trying to pest, hope it's helpful, glad to continue the conversation.

https://github.com/joshuamckenty/unchaind/issues/1

P.S. Would love to read about your work on the alternate tech stack!

Can you flesh out the strategy on this initiative? · Issue #1 · joshuamckenty/unchaind

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