Dan GillmorMay 3, 2023

NPR is the only major journalism org to have shown a spine in dealing with Musk. So he's threatened to give the NPR username to someone else.

Yet even now -- despite Musk's growing contempt for and acts against journalism -- most media organizations and their employees STILL pour their work and some of their advertising money in to his rancid site.

What will it take for journalists to wake the hell up?

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/02/1173422311/elon-musk-npr-twitter-reassign

Show threadkurt baumgartnerMay 3, 2023
@dangillmor @dangoodin the problem is that this alternative is not terribly mature
Show threadDrFriendless 🇵🇸May 3, 2023
@kurtisj @dangillmor @dangoodin The problem is that nobody wants to be part of an alternative vanity project for brands and celebrities. If maturity makes mastodon as awful as Twitter, why have it?
Show threadDan GoodinMay 3, 2023
@DrFriendless @kurtisj @dangillmor Isn’t the bigger problem that people aren’t willing sacrifice something they like in order to defend fundamental principles?
Show thread1st Unoriginal Thot May 3, 2023
@dangoodin @DrFriendless @kurtisj @dangillmor I mean, make Mastodon fun and I am sure people will flock over.
Show threadDan GoodinMay 3, 2023
@slut @DrFriendless @kurtisj @dangillmor Are you saying that people, in particular journalists whose very avocation is threatened by the Twitter menace, should not follow a moral imperative to leave unless or until there's a place they like as much as Twitter?
Show threadDrFriendless 🇵🇸May 3, 2023

@dangoodin @slut @kurtisj @dangillmor No not at all. I'm saying that journalists aren't leaving because they feel they have an audience on Twitter, be it ever so and increasingly deplorable. And because mastodon can't deliver them an audience which is centralised and captive they don't see the value in it. I feel if you ask a journalist or a politician or an advertiser to choose between morality or an audience, they will always choose the audience.

And the problem is that one of the things I love about mastodon is that I am not a captive audience for all of those egotists. And I don't wish mastodon to ever evolve into that. I would like mastodon to be a place where I follow those that I respect.

Mastodon is a peaceful village square, Twitter is Times Square where you are imprisoned in stocks and buffoons shout at you. When everyone is in the village square, what will the buffoons do?

Show threadHelena
@DrFriendless @dangoodin @slut @kurtisj @dangillmor Twitter is a never ending bar fight.
May 3, 2023 at 12:41pmWeb
Show threadroodMay 3, 2023
@thelastpinkcar dangerous bars rarely go out of business where I live.
Show threadLZVolkMay 3, 2023

@thelastpinkcar @DrFriendless @dangoodin @slut @kurtisj @dangillmor

Best quote ever!

Show thread1st Unoriginal Thot May 3, 2023

@lzvolk @thelastpinkcar @DrFriendless @dangoodin @kurtisj @dangillmor All walks of people want to be at a bar, to watch the spectacle, to engage and exchange cross-culturally. Not many people want to feel policed by hall monitors 24/7 with a bent towards a specific monoculture. Especially, when the hall monitors tend to favor a specific group of people with implicit biases.

People are multifaceted and most folks don't have one special interest. Plenty of people from Twitter I knew used it professionally while also interacting with fandoms, spoke about fashion, and followed real-time political happenings. I don't really see BTS groups going viral or queer fashion mastodon blowing up. When this point is made, it is usually disregarded by white men who are focused more so on banging their heads against compilers than questioning how people can scratch their pop culture itch in a rewarding way here.

I understand the argument of wanting to have a safe and peaceful platform to engage in, I really do. I would just beg people to have the self-awareness that they shouldn't be moralizing the usage of hellsites simply because people like to engage in the zeitgeist differently than they do.

It reeks of elitism.

Show threadHelenaMay 3, 2023
@lzvolk @DrFriendless @dangoodin @slut @kurtisj @dangillmor