CoralI was finally getting used to NOT having quote-posts.
Please, can we not hate-share things? Don't QP to dunk. QP to "yes-and," and QP for memes, but don't QP hate into your friends' timelines.
mybarkingdogs@coral will also add that if people *must* use a QP/QT to dunk - make it meaningful and always punch UP.
I'm not even *against* the idea of dunking and callouts per se as they're a way of speaking revolutionary truth to power - what I did hate about the birdsite's take on it was the lateral violence or eliminationist punching down, often on the basis of something out of context/assumed to be the very worst it could be
@coral Like, people need to understand those concepts well before bringing the tool over here to cause more damage.
What I'd just like to tell people is - is the problem resolvable by a single non quote reply to a person (e.g. they unknowingly used problematic language/framing)? Then reply them or DM them. And a few other points... (sorry would put here but my text window overruns)
@coral Is someone mentally ill or in a bad place? Hold off on the dunk, mental health/wellbeing is itself a gigantic privilege and "help" forced by public shaming/cutting someone off from support they do have is often no help at all, regardless of what Intervention told everyone... and then...
@coral the most important thing people forgot over there - is it *worth it* because once the QT dogpile is on anyone can see it, anyone can join it - including fascists, stalkers, etc
Sometimes it is - I'd never tell someone to "just block" on a rapist for example. Most times, it isn't worth the splash damage and block/mute/report is a better idea
@coral "they are performing [fill in the blank] INCORRECTLY and-" Mute. Block.
"EVERYONE hates them" Not before that QT they won't.
"but I have PROOF they spent $20 of their fundraiser on weed-" Melon Husk probably spent 20 mil on *crappy* weed. Yell at him. /end 🧵
Artemis@mybarkingdogs @coral The inevitable problem is that EVERYONE thinks they are Speaking Truth To Power and doing something righteous. When in reality they're 90% of the time opening up some rando to harrassment - and the 10% of the time they are QT'ing someone powerful, that powerful person doesn't care and it just ends up putting odious opinions on someone's feed just so that the QT-er can get the smug glowing feeling of Take That!
@mybarkingdogs @coral Like, is any of that revolutionary, actually? Or is it just personally satisfying the urge to say Take That?
@moonspider @coral That's actually a good point, and why I *really* wish people would do better here. Save these for when it's REALLY important and something we can impact via publicity or information
@moonspider @coral Like, QT/QP callouts/pileons need to be seen as the very last resort, reserved for situations involving unchecked privilege/power abuse where *nothing* else is sufficient to prevent further harm - not something where merely asking a reply question/for an edit could fix, not something that could be resolved with no one being seriously harmed just by blocking/muting/moving on.