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A few years too late, but ARIA Authoring Practices Guide finally has (only) four support tables:
https://www.w3.org/blog/2023/04/answering-what-aria-can-i-use/

Mind, a year ago it re-branded as a copy-ready pattern library without any data on support.
#a11y #accessibility

Answering “What ARIA can I use?” | W3C Blog

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Those four patterns are generally safe, too (button, link, alert, radiogroup).

However, the AT support tables:
• are all listed as “Unapproved Report”;
• only list desktop browsers/SRs;
• do not include Firefox.

So, IMO, worth asking for input but not calling a win.

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I agree with Eric:
https://yatil.social/@yatil/110218482529480904

Not super useful as a go / no-go.

Eric Eggert (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] I like how those tables are made for people who already know, too. “Toggle buttons are supported 63% in Safari/VO macOS.” is effectively non-information for implementers. It does not answer the question of “can I use this pattern?” (And of course you might not even want to use some of the patterns over native HTML or hybrid solutions.)

yatil.social

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Not a “sea change”. That statement is pure hyperbole.

It is literally a year too late (4 SRs & 1 browser short) for something that announced it was an accessible pattern library (which it is not) last GAAD.

https://w3c.social/@w3c/110220013802529659
https://twitter.com/w3c/status/1648315190373433345

*grumble*

World Wide Web Consortium (@[email protected])

W3C blog: "Answering 'What ARIA can I use?'" by Matthew King “Assistive Technology Support” tables in the ARIA Authoring Practices Guide show how 3 screen readers support 4 UI pattern implementations represents a sea change in accessibility engineering https://www.w3.org/blog/2023/04/answering-what-aria-can-i-use/

w3c.social

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I missed this other write-up:
“‘Can I Use…’, but for ARIA!”
https://bocoup.com/blog/can-i-use-but-for-aria

How is knowing NVDA 2021.3.5 (two years old) supports something at 96% useful? Does the 4% the mean no keyboards?

What about my NVDA 2023.1.0.27913? Or that I use it with Firefox?

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@aardrian I want to tear everything down. This is so useless. Nobody understands why Can I Use? is useful and beloved. (Hint: It’s because you get Yes/No answers. Not 96%. “Can I eat this?” – “96%” – “Yeah, maybe not.”)

ARGH.

@yatil I would not mind if these announcements were framed better. Essentially, “Hey, we are finally trying to gather some limited notes on support.”
@aardrian Yeah. Or if there was a summary like “For most use cases the button role is well supported, just be aware of X.” But just saying X out of Y tests work is not useful. And then sell it as if they just invented sliced bread.
@yatil Sliced bread? One step away from toasts!
@aardrian Well, toast is sliced boring bread… which… also fits.