Women Interface Network  Apr 20, 2023

đź‘ľ Artemis I

reporters: NASA’s huge waste of money “exceeded all expectations and all systems functioned perfectly” in completely pointless and unimpressive Earth-Moon L2 Distant Retrograde Halo Orbit mission that wasted a hundred trillion taxpayer dollars

Starship catastrophic launch failure

reporters: SpaceX breaks spaceflight records by not exploding their Starship for four whole minutes, “almost” passes major milestone of stage separation, revolutionizing spaceflight as we know it. “Literally ten times as good as the Saturn V” says experts. Here is our interview with elon musk who did not sponsor this article

Show threadKazrikoApr 21, 2023
@requiem I bet the cost of those programs are several orders of magnitude different by the time they're done. The Starship will be a whole lot cheaper because they're willing to test, test, test, on novel designs rather than sticking with proven systems, and overdesigning everything. I'd be surprised if the Starship costs even 50 billion by the end, let alone 100 trillion. Artemis also is going to ultimately give us a disposable rocket with barely any reusable components, while Starship should be extensively reusable.
Show threadrequiem 🦫Apr 21, 2023

@kazriko starship won’t give “us” anything, it’s private property.

@winter

Show threadKazrikoApr 21, 2023
@requiem @winter Us as in humanity, all of the airplanes that we ride around in to travel around the country and between countries are private property as well, and yet they give us the ability to get to Japan the next day.
Show threadrequiem 🦫Apr 21, 2023

@kazriko ah,

So the rich, got it.

@winter

Show threadKazrikoApr 21, 2023
@requiem @winter Normally when someone says "the rich" they are implying something that costs $50k or more, rather than being able to go around the planet for $1.5k, or go to the other end of the country for $200.
Show threadrequiem 🦫Apr 21, 2023

@kazriko Sorry, that was a bit curt.

But what I mean is that when NASA goes to space it is at least theoretically owned by the (American) public, when private companies do it it is theirs, not ours.

Musk is building rockets so he and other billionaires can bail on this planet before they destroy it. They are building rockets which blow-up and scatter garbage on threatened ecosystems and joking about it. They are failing to do now what NASA did 50 years ago using slide rules.

As far as I’m concerned, it’s not impressive, and not valuable to humanity.

@winter

Show threadKazrikoApr 21, 2023
@requiem @winter This seems like more of a rant against Musk than against Starship. Again, I don't care at all for the guy, all I want to see is results.

Nasa did not make a rocket this large 50 years ago with slide rules. Nasa did not make a full cycle engine 50 years ago with slide rules, Nasa did not make a rocket that could land back at its tower 50 years ago with slide rules. These are all novel things that they're experimenting with here. Russia did try to make a full cycle engine and failed, and Russia tried to make rockets this powerful and failed.
Show threadrequiem 🦫

@kazriko all that novel stuff hasn’t made it out of LEO yet (unless you count that car he flung into space, maybe that go somewhere).

@winter

Apr 21, 2023 at 11:07pmWeb
Show threadKazrikoApr 21, 2023
@requiem @winter Still early days on that, SH is too early, and Falcon 9 is a medium lift, it was revolutionary when it was made for its low cost and reusability, but it's fairly pedestrian beyond that. SH will be where they actually move ahead when it's complete.