Dan Wentzel 🏳️‍🌈Apr 5, 2023
“My hot take on “15 minute cities” is if you can get to the coffee shop within fifteen minutes, but the barrista who makes your drink can’t afford to live closer than a half-hour away, then you live in a theme park.” - Gareth Klieber #cities #urbanism #housing #transit #cycling
Show threadLocal Dad, Ben Hamill
@danwentzel @celesteh Huh. Like, I agree with this take, but also... I don't feel like it's that hot? Are there advocates for "15 minute cities" that are against lowering housing costs? Those things seem to go hand-in-hand to me. Maybe it's just the urbanists that I pay attention to.
Apr 5, 2023 at 3:56pmWeb
Show threadMurph.Apr 5, 2023

@benhamill @danwentzel @celesteh it's fun seeing the replies break between "well obviously that's a theme park and not a 15 min city by definition" and "well obviously 15 min cities are theme parks and therefore a bad idea". Some confusion of the term there.

I'm at least heartened that the replies I'm seeing aren't taking the third option of rushing to defend unaffordable places.

Show threadMurph.Apr 5, 2023
@benhamill @danwentzel @celesteh or maybe the divide is less of definition and more attitudinal. Some are aspirational enough to think we can and should have places that offer inclusive access, and others think we can't possibly achieve inclusion and so the 15mc must only be elite/exclusive.