Mastodawn

48kRAM Mar 27, 2023

1990s web experience

- Open site in browser
- Watch framework of site gradually appear
- Start reading site text
- View images once they load
- Click a hyperlink to more information on the thing you're looking for

2020s web experience

- Open site in browser
- Wait for Cloudflare to verify you aren't a bot
- Wait for background movie to load
- Dismiss cookie popup
- Decline to subscribe to their mailing list
- Decline to speak to a chatbot that promises it's a human
- Scroll infinitely looking for the information you want that's probably not there since it's all generated text intended for other robots to read anyway

@48kRAM don't forget the popup trying to get you to agree to browser notifications

censored for “transphobia”Mar 27, 2023

@ksbex @48kRAM as well as the popup asking if it’s okay to pass along location info.

Siegfried.Mar 27, 2023

@koherecoWatchdog @ksbex @48kRAM yeah, on my non moving desktop pc.

Wildduck Mar 30, 2023

@realSiegfried @koherecoWatchdog @ksbex @48kRAM when you're pissed off and want to leave, catch a glimpse of a popup beging you to stay on the page to subscribe and get notification on an update, or to read more on subjects you may like

censored for “transphobia”Mar 30, 2023

@Wildduck @48kRAM @ksbex @realSiegfried ah yes, that one is a bit rare. Sometimes triggered by switching tabs or (iirc) even control-w. I guess it overrides the keystrokes for those cases but it probably doesn't work for people who click to close the tab.

Wildduck Mar 31, 2023

@koherecoWatchdog @48kRAM @ksbex @realSiegfried i see it mostly when I reach the upper quarter of the screen with the mouse, as to close the tab or go elsewhere.

censored for “transphobia”Mar 31, 2023

@Wildduck @realSiegfried @ksbex @48kRAM In any case, it should be treated as a #darkPattern and the website should be blacklisted. And the blacklist should be used to downrank search results.

Wildduck Mar 31, 2023

@koherecoWatchdog @realSiegfried @ksbex @48kRAM a bunch of general infos websites and shops do this.

Lightning Bjornsson (they, he, xe/hir)Apr 6, 2023

@koherecoWatchdog @Wildduck @realSiegfried @ksbex @48kRAM until we put the kibosh on this profit-driven world, that's not happening.

censored for “transphobia”Apr 6, 2023

@lightning
It’s already happened to some extent. #Ombrelo is a search engine that excludes #Cloudflare websites from the results. There’s nothing to stop someone from creating a search service that filters out other varieties of garbage.

It’s precisely the profit-driven world that creates the need to filter out garbage.
@ksbex @Wildduck @48kRAM @realSiegfried

MortSinyx Apr 6, 2023

@koherecoWatchdog, could you please point me to Ombrelo? Cc: @lightning, @ksbex, @Wildduck, @48kRAM and @realSiegfried in case they also have trouble finding the address or have found it.

censored for “transphobia”Apr 6, 2023

@cnx
I regret to say I can’t reach it anymore. As it moved around, the new location would be normally disclosed in the TXT field of some DNS records. But the last move was not reflected there.
@lightning @ksbex @Wildduck @48kRAM @realSiegfried

Peter Jakobs ⛵May 10, 2023

@koherecoWatchdog @ksbex @48kRAM and then open the content editor to get rid of the big popover telling you that, unless you deactivate your ad blocker, you can't get the content (but when you allow ads, the content will be sandwiched between two equally large, blinking, screaming, deceptively luring your click ad bars)

censored for “transphobia”May 10, 2023

@pjakobs @48kRAM @ksbex I used to have a plugin w/a hotkey that would launch the page in #lynx. A lot of shenanigans can be circumvented that way. IIRC, I lost that pluging b/c of #Mozilla shenanigans. Mozilla pushed a protectionist policy at some point & started controlling what extensions you can use. That may be when the /launch in lynx/ add-on was lost.

Sylvhem Mar 27, 2023

@ksbex @48kRAM And the one suggesting you read the same content through the App™ instead.

EyalL Mar 27, 2023

Not if you block them all in the settings.

Duncan Blues Mar 27, 2023

@ksbex @48kRAM and the short teaser on the topic you are looking for, followed by a paywall.

@ksbex @48kRAM but wait. Also subscribe to my newsletter